Redt Energy Share Discussion Threads

[ts0mev] 30/7/2018 13:45

Ch1ck, weekly news might be a big ask. I'd settle for a quarterly update on the state of the business and a bit of PR news in the shorter term. Not sure if that is what you meant? Personally speaking, I was taking a more pessimistic view on when RED would be making any sort of announcement like the one last week. Completely changed the game, also noting Scott has advised that is G3 units. Expectations are raised, but I would suggest another 6 months before this holds above 12p. Again, RED may surprise us before then considering the huge pipeline of projects announced end of Dec 2017. I'm a technical optimist, so read that as you see fit..

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 13:42

looks ready to nosedive here, wont post that on the other thread they might cry!!!

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 13:41

how much of your £4.99 have you sold

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 13:39

pierre dont make me laugh, someone is dumping lots of 250,000 and 100,000 i think you may find it is more than £100

Pierre Oreilly30 Jul '18 - 12:01 - 853 of 857
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Peaked for today do you mean? No one knows. I'm pretty confident that it will be much higher in a years, 2 years time. Each to their own, but I think traders taking 100 quid here and their kind of miss the point

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 13:36

Ch1ck did you mention my name???

[boadicea] 30/7/2018 13:35

The point about energy cycle efficiency mentioneded by ts0mev is an important one.
There are two aspects to note. First is that the cycle efficiency, typically quoted as ~75% is for a specific operational mode, the longer design discharge time, eg 4 or 6 hours. A shorter discharge time (ie higher current rate) increases the losses - not surprisingly as most losses are I^2 x R related.
The second point to note is that the "losses" are not really lost but eventually reappear in degraded form as heat (some perhaps having been used in the interim to drive system functions, pumps etc.)
In a 300kWh unit this could amount to something like 100kWh of 'lost' power over the course of a complete cycle (=360 MJoules or 86 Mcal) of low grade heat, enough to raise the temperature of a cubic metre of water from 14 deg C to boiling point.
From the operational point of view the heat may be a nuisance requiring removal in order to keep units at efficient working temperatures. Scale this up to the multi MWh range and that is a lot of heat. However, large quantities of low grade heat can potentially be utilised in applications such as horticulture, fish farming etc.

[tonsil] 30/7/2018 13:32

What a pleasure to read an intelligent discussion on this thread without any bolleaux from digerydog

[ch1ck] 30/7/2018 12:53

I think this will have traders taking profits as it climbs. 12p will be a natural resistance point but new punters and people with a long term goal will hold.I will play this on a weekly basis depending on news flow but would think this will power through if we get good news.22p was mentioned in the Investors Cronical but that was before this news

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 12:45

I thought you had all pretended to go to another thread on ring pieces advice!!!

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 12:43

Alchemy glad you think so, many thanks..

[alchemy] 30/7/2018 12:37

Your thoughts reign supreme.

[dlg3] 30/7/2018 12:31

sp going as I thought.... retrace back until news on finance..

[pierre oreilly] 30/7/2018 12:01

Peaked for today do you mean? No one knows. I'm pretty confident that it will be much higher in a years, 2 years time. Each to their own, but I think traders taking 100 quid here and their kind of miss the point

[chicken01] 30/7/2018 11:41

Difficult to analyse where this is going to end up today...has it peaked?.

[murdo mcsponge] 30/7/2018 11:25

Thanks Tsm. That's it.

[ts0mev] 30/7/2018 10:53

MM, basically the power required to charge only gives 75% power available for disharge. In other words, there are losses. This is the case with any form of energy storage. Lithium is around 85% efficient. Whether you are making the most of the solar PV energy or even charging from the grid when electricity demand is low (and the price is also low) to then use that stored energy for peak shaving or other transmission and distribution related costs. Increasing efficiency means increased value.

[alchemy] 30/7/2018 10:50

On a moving average of x days it'll move north for days months and a couple of years now , maybe! As I said over the weekend to someone on here my instinct is we will be chosen as the storage for that big Kent solar farm. I guess the big deal might have overshadowed any news on pipelines , niche markets e.g. the farm one, but happy to hear otherwise.Vanadium , four Valencies, how fortunate we are . Fixed storage dealt. Steady state for mobile batteries coming up.I'm a moderate character in many ways but Musk maybe left behind. ------ The next big task is consuming CO2 or artificial photo-synthesis.

[gerd212] 30/7/2018 10:42

Thanks to Masurenguy for reinstating the charts

[pierre oreilly] 30/7/2018 10:40

Like Scott said, it's all a matter of scale. This contract is big in terms of number of units, but it's small n terms of grid generation. Scott said it was 1%of the market (of which market he didn't make clear). So 99% still left for coal, nukes and gas. Hence the potential for more massive orders.I think it's 1% of the secondary reserve market - the generation which is contracted to come on between something like 3 minutes and run for something like a couple of hours, for frequency support. Secondary reserve is paid at a much higher rate than scheduled generation. Not sure why these won't be deployed into the primary reserve market too, where payments are much higher still.But you're right, it's a very small step to getting coal off their grid. In fact Germany has 3 or 4 new coal stations under construction as we speak.

[chicken01] 30/7/2018 10:33

Alchemy... I think they also have vast wind farms?...see your point though.Hoping to see some larger buys today, in the 1m upwards. But nevertheless lots of positive buys on the back of the news...let's see how long it keeps moving north!. Good luck.

[alchemy] 30/7/2018 10:27

I'm still intrigued by what I might christen the "December Issue", when sunlight is either short or hidden or both. How are the Germans not going to burn coal at 8 o'clock p m on December 22nd. ?But what a piece of news last week "de-risked" by one order!

[dogrunner11] 30/7/2018 10:22

City mates dumping in background.

£5 a share DLG sounds about right LOL

[gspanner] 30/7/2018 10:21

WEll that is pretty much mission accomplished.

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