Plutus Powergen Share Discussion Threads

[1savvyinvestor] 16/8/2018 14:33

Aiminvestor. We have all realised it is pointless arguing with certain types. Literally idiots. Just ignore

[pbanus] 16/8/2018 13:26

@a1m1investor - you're the clueless one, each spv has £2M of debt against each one, directly attributable to PPG. Rockpool put cash in. When sold and the debt is repaid there's nothing left for PPG. Hopefully you're now learning! Happy with your new investment? LOL

[a1m1investor] 16/8/2018 13:22

Lol, you could borrow against the 45% stake in the 6 houses you already have...are you actually that clueless?

[pbanus] 16/8/2018 10:20

@a1m1investor, you don't know prices paid, volumes bought or sold or whether anyone has gained or lost anything. Why not buy some Tern shares if you want a rollercoaster.

[pbanus] 16/8/2018 09:33

a1m1investor you just make so much up, which planet do you live on? How do you know the price where anyone bought the shares, or if they have a holding at all? It appears that you stalk posters on here. You appear to live in an imaginary world where your fantasy is reality just for you. It appears you have a penchant for bombed-out stocks. Look at Interserve and how that has fallen further and bumped along the bottom, why not buy some of those? at least they have a strategy!

[pbanus] 16/8/2018 08:54

thinking back to the 2017 Annual Report, the directors gave themselves additional large share options, diluting the existing shareholding by 10%. They haven't "bought" these shares, there's no initial outlay, it hasn't cost them anything,whatever they sell them for is a bonus, because next financial year they can give themselves more free shares, and in past years they've done the same getting free shares. AIM is quite lax in tracking who's playing by the rules so it would come as no surprise to discover that it's been the directors selling into any rise with a 500k sale here and there. Remember their mantra was "no dilution" and they've clearly flouted that, so who knows what else they are up to to the detriment of ordinary shareholders.

[1savvyinvestor] 16/8/2018 08:03

I’ve got a long at 4K a point with Spreadex

[maybesum] 16/8/2018 07:54

Nothing but hot air trying to raise the bid so as to dump stock. The pattern is well established here with the usual suspects trying to big up the outlook for PPG on the back of nothing at all from the company, other than silence.

[2pablo] 16/8/2018 07:40

IG won't even let me take a 'Long' on PPG and never have due to lack of liquidity. No platform is going to offer a 'shorting' possibility.

I've had a CFD account, similar to spreadbetting, with IG for years.

[nw99] 15/8/2018 21:51

Pays to be in the know

[a1m1investor] 15/8/2018 21:40

They're the catalyst for most of the crazy rises that you see on AIM, most retail don;t understand the skullduggery that goes on behind the scenes. If you think it's a few retail punters on a bulletin board making any significant difference then you are much mistaken. I've seen AIM sp's triple on the back on the back of placings being cancelled.

[pbanus] 15/8/2018 20:11

Listen to Marvin folks, he's been involved with the share much longer, he's only trying to help you!

[pbanus] 15/8/2018 20:09

those of us on the "realism" thread are trying to hold the directors to account, nothing more sinister than that. We're giving any new investors some of the history of what's occurred in the past to help them avoid making any ill conceived investment. A1m1investor ask yourself this - why don't Chelverton or Paternoster increase their stake in PPG if as you say it is at bargain levels? They've got the cash available but actively choose not to buy more of PPG. Savvy himself concedes that funding could be over a year away. Why doesn't savvy or bishop buy more shares if they are such a bargain?

[pbanus] 15/8/2018 20:02

speaking of spreadbetting. I remember 1savvyinvestor saying that he wouldn't be buying any more shares, but he was taking a spreadbet...look no further for the villain of the piece you are seeking!

[pbanus] 15/8/2018 19:58

a1m1investor - I didn't at any point say the the results were late. Please learn to read accurately before throwing around accusations. I said the interims were delivered on the last available day. Last year the finals were released around 15th Sept, however there was plenty of newsflow on their twitter feed prior to that. This year there has been virtually nothing. It's common knowledge their strategy has failed and they are struggling to get funding, so it wouldn't be a surprise to me if they push their final results out to 31st Oct, 6 months after the 31st April, which will be the maximum time period they are allowed. In terms of how you invest it sounds like it is rather like "pin the tail on the donkey" - so good luck with that.

[nw99] 15/8/2018 19:46

Love short squeezes ala Ocado style

[a1m1investor] 15/8/2018 19:45

Lol, I'm not here to persuade you bmbc5, I don't care what you believe

[a1m1investor] 15/8/2018 19:42

Not really, most AIM shorts are done via spreadbet Co's so wouldn't be listed. To be honest the majority of institutional shorts go undeclared anyway so you wouldn't ever see them. It's a good thing anyway if it has/is being shorted, as they have to be bought back to close the short out anyway.

[a1m1investor] 15/8/2018 19:16

I really don;t care if it's a cash cow or not, if the share price rises i'm happy. Let's not delude ourselves here, AIM punters are short term speculators not long term business investors. I really don;t care what or how the business does what it does, if there's value and good risk reward then it's worth getting in. Looking at the chart here, this is big time in the value zone, could easily be multiples of the current price. Trick is not to get emotionally attached, you two clearly are and have lost the plot, your so desperate to show the directors up that you can;t see the value here at this bottomed out level.

I've not seen any valid concerning issues from him, his post today was all about the results being late, so there must be something bad afoot...when i've shown he knows fine well this isn't the case.

Love it or hate it, there's value in this company at this low share price