Paysafe Share Discussion Threads

[eh9] 18/5/2017 07:55

wirecard looking good today
hxxp://ir.wirecard.com/download/companies/wirecard/Quarterly%20Reports/DE0007472060-Q1-2017-EQ-E-00.pdf

[eh9] 18/5/2017 07:43

As their cfo has just been rated the most respected in the country I don't think there is much for the longs to worry about

[polythene] 18/5/2017 07:40

Ultimately we can talk about all kinds of conspiracies but the simplest interpretation is that anyone shorting a share believes it is over priced. I was a Blinkx shareholder and suffered a torrid time in what amounted to a short attack. Blinkx was making money but the ethics of their ad placement was questioned. I still fear some kind of coordinated attack here either a scare on pays are being accused again of supporting illegal gambling or, the one I have nightmares about users data being compromised. I am long and strong but I do worry. I would like pays are to get to my exit point before that happens please.

[eh9] 18/5/2017 06:45

Totally agree mip was never meaning the two shorts were in collusion. In fact they are all squirming to get out and keep the price down imo. There is too much good news brewing re the quality of what paysafe is creating and the integrity and industry reputation of its staff e.g. The cfo award yesterday and another very big win for income access yesterday.

[mip55] 18/5/2017 00:49

Must confess I've never come across the situation outlined whereby one company, reducing it's short positions, is aided by another company who increases its own shorts to benefit the first company.I'm quite prepared to be presented with evidence to the contrary but, isn't it more likely that we have a difference of opinion..... ?rather like stockBob who sold out today and EH9 telling him it was madness to do that ?FWIW I'm a long term holder who won't be selling out on this short term drop but neither will be involved in ramping or the scatter gun approach to whom / when the next M & A will involve!

[callmebwana] 17/5/2017 17:12

Support level seems to be around £4.64/4.65 at the moment. Just have to see if it holds there.

[eh9] 17/5/2017 16:50

Shorts reduced 11 basis points since yesterday with aek continuing to get out paid for by pep

[mip55] 17/5/2017 14:12

Everyone's risk / reward ratio is different. StockBob has money in the bank - who's to say he's wrong??

[kuss1] 17/5/2017 13:52

Madness selling, chart looks just fine.

[eh9] 17/5/2017 13:49

Madness selling at 3.8% below ath!

[stockbob] 17/5/2017 13:47

sold at small loss this morning will now wait for 450s or possibly
440s. to get back in.
this share gets so erratic sometimes

[eh9] 17/5/2017 12:23

We are 3.8% below ath! Some days are consolidation days

[malcolmmm] 17/5/2017 12:12

Apparently funds short stock to stabilise their portfolios also of course they could be long. If the market crashes they make money to cover losses I suppose

[wolfhound1] 17/5/2017 11:46

here's a thought - PAYS has a price support structure in place at 400p (PAYS board could of course have move that higher)- so profits opportunity for shorters are limited to approx. 15%, on the flip side news of M&A and share price could spike up by 30%-50% as it did with Skrill.

naked shorts therefore run risk of having potential losses being 3 times larger than potential profits - not sure many traders would want to lay money on those odds.

...or maybe these aren't naked shorts at all - maybe the same people are long in a "separate legal entity" fund and just doing these shorts to hoover up shares on the cheap from pi's.

don't take anything on face value when it comes to HF traders

DYOR & GLA

[cg8riverside] 17/5/2017 11:32

https://a16z.com/2017/02/06/china-trends-2016-2017/I really must do some travelling in China one day

[cg8riverside] 17/5/2017 11:30

https://a16z.com/2017/02/06/china-trends-2016-2017/Whilst the short position is frustrating one gets the feeling PAYS can only be held back for so long. One day the dam will burst and I will be holding until it does

[nurdin] 17/5/2017 11:17

There are many stocks worthy of a short,why pick on PAYS,specially at such a low rating? What do they know that we dont? Those are bothersome questions that I am struggling to answer.

[scothernman] 17/5/2017 11:01

Looking at the way PEMP went further short from May 9th till yesterday they want to take this down more. Respectfully dont see logic of one short fund extending to help a second unrelated short to cover. First one holds the bucket after selling at higher price in case the shares shot up on news. PEMP stand to gain buying even 3 to 4% lower in 2 to 3 weeks. No regrets selling out completely at 479p few days ago.Will wait for the 457p figure which the market makers play around since April before entering.

[lomax99] 17/5/2017 10:44

Well since 9 May PEPM have increased their short by c. 2.66M shares (from 1.33% to 1.88%). The last increase was on Monday this week, when they increased their short from 1.62% to 1.88%, an increase on that day of c. 1.26M. Probably doesn't help.

[callmebwana] 17/5/2017 10:40

Nurdin, I think Shorters are playing this like a violin.
I have bought back in,after selling. Just can't take the chance of being out when the news hits. I don't put a stop lose on this share either.
ATB.

[nurdin] 17/5/2017 10:31

Hmmm...not a good trend here.Cant understand why

[eh9] 16/5/2017 12:21

Far more buyers than sellers. Being brought down for large buyers

[stockbob] 16/5/2017 12:20

looks like its started its annual drop for the time of the year!
if it rises a bit i think i will sell at break even and get back in later at lower price towards end of month or early next month
DYOR
GLA