Paragon Entertainment Share Discussion Threads

[cautoussid] 01/3/2016 12:42

some nice sized buys today again , lije to see the larger buys coming into pel ,even if some chunky sells ,

[luckyphilip] 01/3/2016 11:20

Nice saying!

[my retirement fund] 01/3/2016 11:07

Hmmm I hope they are not listening to you! Turnover is vanity. Profit is sanity.

[luckyphilip] 01/3/2016 11:02

agreed. The fall from 2.5 to 1.5 in December was due to disappointing the market for a second time so confidence is low. It will help that there are days like today which seem to be building support round 1.4 - 1.5. Setting up nicely for good news....which we have to believe is round the corner. If they beat the expectations of 11 million by anything significant then it will rise rapidly back to the 2.5 area

[my retirement fund] 01/3/2016 10:45

Anything with a market cap like pel is going to be illiquid. Liquidity will only come with a larger market cap and a larger market cap should come from profit. PEL has confidence issue. Management need to show they are good at turning a profit. If they can do that the market will have confidence in them, the shareprice will be higher and the market cap higher. Whats more the market will have some confidence to carry liquidity as well as being somewhat forgiving of the lumpy cash flow.

[pj 1] 01/3/2016 10:21

Its illiquid so we have the situation currently that trades of circa 0.5% of the current shares in issue, results in a disproportionate effect on the share price, with moves of +/- 7% so strong nerves and conviction required. Off course the illiquidity works both ways.

[my retirement fund] 01/3/2016 09:43

I took a few yesterday must confess. Not sure if recent sales on spike were bored scared pi's or what tho. Encouraged by insider holdings. The management just need to prove they can turn a reasonable profit and given the wip and turnover the share price could really take off.

[luckyphilip] 01/3/2016 09:05

Am I engaging in wishful thinking? It seeks that each time there is a drop buyers come in. If this continues we should move forward very positively

[1savvyinvestor] 01/3/2016 07:32

Agreed. From my conversations with Mark at PEL they are looking at and close to tying up deals in "experiential" retailing. Big shopping centres need leisure attractions to encourage families to come. This is due to the competition from online shopping. Increasingly people need "added value' to their shopping trip. My sense is that regarding share price the BOD is perplexed rather than depressed. They are very confident that the true market cap will be reflected by a rising share price soon. I personally see 2.5p being hit quite rapidly. That would hit a wall for a whilst unless their figures are a huge surprise on the upside .

[dontsweatit] 29/2/2016 19:10

Good find PJ this is exactly what the opportunity from repeatable projects is all about.PEL should be communicating more of this in one form or another. It really makes you wonder how much work they really do have in the pipeline or to be tendered for in the future just needs some real positive news an trading to give an uplift. the management must be really depressed with where the Cap is.

[pj 1] 29/2/2016 18:52

I have also just noticed the article ref. INTU who own the biggest retail parks and dare I say Malls in the UK. They were also PEL's landlord at Merry Hill I believe. With previous history its hard not to see contracts esp with framework agreements

INTU (or John Whittaker)are also I invested in Hamleys.

INTU already have x1 centre in Spain.

€650 million theme park for Torremolinos
Euro Weekly News Costa del Sol 15 February 2016
TAG: €650 million theme park Torremolinos British company Intu Properties Properties in spain commercial restaurants shops skislope Hamleys

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PLANS for a new theme park in Torremolinos are likely to be passed by town planners in principle on February 16.

British company, Intu Properties, has presented a bid of to produce a commercial and leisure facility which would be the largest in Andalucia and will feature restaurants, shops, a dry ski-slope, and wave-creating swimming pool among other attractions at a cost of €650 million.

An initial payment of €20 million is due to be paid to the local council and thereafter an estimated annual income of €3 million would be generated. The theme park would bring 4,000 jobs to the town. Other indirect opportunities would bring an estimated 3000 jobs in the building and opening of the park.

The only drawback will be that the proposal must also be approved by the Junta de Andalucia which has previously rejected five earlier proposals but on this occasion, with an undertaking to introduce new sanitation measures, all parties are much more optimistic.

The British company owns 18 shopping malls across the UK, including the famous Trafford centre in Manchester, and is now looking to expand its portfolio overseas.

[pj 1] 29/2/2016 18:36

The attached link brings home the size of PEL's markets in the theme park industry alone

[luckyphilip] 29/2/2016 16:46

Ok - got me there!! Quick look through your posts and only read Paragon.

However - why do you suddenly appear here ? I'm always suspicious when someone posts very negatively having not been seen on a board. Why would you bother?

Genuine question - why are you posting?

[my retirement fund] 29/2/2016 16:33

Your so funny, or ignorant ? No offence but PAG is not PEL !


Regards PEL - surely this must be due some good news one day - it cant all be bad news can it?

[luckyphilip] 29/2/2016 16:28

No news since your last post. Given that on 26th you posted the following you have ZERO credibility -


So - here was your post on 26th -
Paragon - time to get in! - PAG
my retirement fund - 26 Feb 2016 - 16:18:35 - 2567 of 2573
Looks a bit of a no brainer, - double bottom, W chart breakout formation, director buying, company buying back its own shares, did I miss anything?

[my retirement fund] 29/2/2016 16:02

What on the premise that the fully fledged rampers meant the reverse ?

[luckyphilip] 29/2/2016 13:11

Excellent news. We have a Fully fledged deramper here which means buyer interest about to return !

[my retirement fund] 29/2/2016 13:07

Yes I agree it is certainly going down. The trend is down here. There is no argument its going down and has been for a long while.It seems there is little immediate change to the very long term trend here.Its going south ie downwards! Just to be clear DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN

[1savvyinvestor] 27/2/2016 09:08

Thanks pj1. Chart does seem to be turning in our favour as long as there isn't still one big seller . The baffling thing about that interview is Justin again saying he is holding when he put a sell notice on it at 1.36!

[pj 1] 26/2/2016 16:10

If charting is your thing then PEL gets a review here, about 6 mins in.



You could argue there is also a Bull double bottom from November 2014, but Im afraid for me its an age thing as all goes south. :-//

[luckyphilip] 26/2/2016 12:56

Nice tweet re trip to America and meetings

[pj 1] 26/2/2016 11:45

Small and low volume but consistent buying been going on for the previous week or so, certainly a refreshing change since the AGM.

[cautoussid] 26/2/2016 11:15

interesting tweet

[cautoussid] 25/2/2016 15:32

ticking up ,looks like some more buyers moving in again today after some sells ,with buyers able to buy in lower than the recent buying by directors at near end of 2015 ,and how much progress pel has seen some investors may not be surprised to see pel starting to move up again

[1savvyinvestor] 23/2/2016 11:33

Just saying! Anyone who sells at this level is an absolute idiot. Very very strong hold/buy in my opinion.