PIN

Pantheon International Plc

272.00
0.50 (0.18%)
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Pantheon International Plc LSE:PIN London Ordinary Share GB00BP37WF17 ORD 6.7P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.50 0.18% 272.00 1,642,160 16:29:43
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
271.00 273.00 274.00 270.00 274.00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Investment Offices 606.09 572.60 106.50 2.57 1,468.38
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
18:06:40 O 661 272.00 GBX

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Posted at 03/5/2023 16:11 by the real stan
PIN themselves. They have cash to invest and can commit to PE funds or buy their own shares.
Posted at 17/3/2023 10:07 by jonwig
Hardman interview:

https://www.investegate.co.uk/hardman---38--co-research--pin-/eqs/hardman--amp--co-research-on-q-amp-a-on-pantheon-international--pin---long-term-out-performance-from-exceptional-companies/20230317100003EOBUK/

Will the D-word be raised? Answer, no.

Posted at 11/2/2023 14:12 by skyship
1968jon - I posted this a few days ago on the PE thread. Pretty much an open and shut case; but I know your mind is shut to the logic of the situation; just like the PIN BoD it would seem.

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The PEIT sector continues to languish; however like the REIT sector there are winners and losers:

# APAX - Disc. @ 29.1%
# APEO - Disc. @ 36.0%
# CTPE - Disc. @ 36.1%
# ICGT - Disc. @ 36.8%
# NBPE - Disc. @ 30.3%
# PEY - Disc. @ 35.7%

The thing to notice with the above is that they all pay dividends; yields range from 2.6% to 6.9%

Compare those discounts to the remaining two standouts who still pay no dividends, preferring to maximise their manager fees rather than maximise shareholder returns:

# HVPE - Disc. @ 44.4%
# PIN - Disc. @ 44.1%

Yet in correspondence the PIN Chairman denies any connection between discount & yield. Hopefully he may read this thread; but unlikely as patently totally disinterested in shareholder views.

Posted at 20/1/2023 10:25 by this_is_me
Unfortunately for my small holding the share price is currently drifting downwards. I hope to add to my small holding at some point, but not just yet.
Posted at 11/11/2022 16:00 by johntobin
I have to disagree with some of the comments that PIN is somehow a "PONZI Scheme" and managers operating in a "dishonest and self serving way".
I didn't attend the AGM this year but I have attended a number. The managers are all very welcoming and more than happy to discus with PI such as myself.
The discount has been an issue for years and they have tried to address it a number of ways during the time I have been a SH.
They had hoped that getting rid of the PIN redeemable shares would help and make the company more understandable, the move into the FTSE 350 was hoped to raise profile, and the 1 to 10 share split last year.

In the last year or so they have engaged Hardman & Co to do and present research and to "educate".

They do not believe in issuing a "fake" dividend is appropriate as the companies they invest in are growth companies and do not pay out dividends but reinvest in growing new business.

As a PI I have benefited from the approach and now have a nice nest egg that I have been selling over the last few years to use up my capital gains.

One year I met a retired fund manager who used PIN as a core holding for his and his childrens pension portfolios because the was so impressed with the team and another who was the companies Inland Revenue Tax Inspector from the 1980s... still there as a PI over 30years on.
Roddy Swires who founded PIN still there.

... the antithesis of a "Ponzi Scheme"

I remember first coming across PIN from a McHattie warrants "Tipsheet" over 20years ago .." always seem to start at the bottom left and end up at the top right of the chart"

And that is what they keep doing. share price is down but if they keep doing what they do with the NAV then the share price will follow.

Another recession looms, the share price may take more of a hit, and maybe the NAV ... but there will be more bargains....

I still think the discount is too wide and they should buy back big time... but in the meantime I have started to buy again...

Posted at 04/11/2022 10:18 by skyship
I’ve had a fairly extensive and fruitless exchange with Vicki Bradly (IR) as Helen Steers, the partner who made the IM presentation, ducked the issue. IMO because she palpably lied in the Q&A session.

This was part of what I wrote on 1st November:
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# PARA 2: Agreed – the whole PE sector is undergoing a period of poor relative performance. Nevertheless, there are winners and losers. It is not a large sector, so comparisons are simple.

- The 2 PEITs with the highest yields (APAX & PEY) are, not coincidentally, the 2 trading on the lowest discounts of c30%.
- The 2 PEITs with NO yields (HVPE & PIN) are, not coincidentally, the 2 trading on the highest discounts of c50%.

The facts speak for themselves. The facts are incontrovertible. Yet you are required to spout the same old ”….the evidence is that the payment of a dividend does not appear to be the solution given that they too continue to trade at significant discounts….221;. Surely it is a matter of degree – see above!

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The very next day Princess PE (PEY) proved my case, so wrote again as follows:
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“Further very timely proof, if proof were needed, of the inevitable link between yield and discount.

Today, Princess PE (PEY) announced that their high dividend would henceforth be less secure, just 2 days after revealing a further 1% rise in NAV for September.

The Market's immediate response has been to slash the share price from 9.54 to 8.24; so that the discount widens out from 33% to 42%

Further proof of the incontrovertible link between yield and discount.

If PIN were to reveal a new dividend policy, say at 4% of NAV. The share price would just as rapidly rise from a discount of 49% (250p) to perhaps a discount of 35% (320p).
That would deliver a 28% uplift in the share price; and further progress likely from there in view of PIN's great long-term history.

See if Helen can refute any of the above in her anticipated response to yesterday's email.

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PIN continue to duck the issue, so I will be attempting to publicise my views elsewhere. As I may have said already, I view PIN as a sophisticated PONZI scheme, operating to shamelessly boost the managers’ fees whilst refusing any return to shareholders. It is a disgrace; and it is about time they were outed. I believe they are great PE managers; but operating in an entirely self-serving and dishonest way.

Come on Edward Bramson. You did well bidding for Electra; time for a re-run with a bid for PIN.

Posted at 02/11/2022 12:37 by 1968jon
Skyship, I really do not want to get into a ding-dong here and I most likely will step away from this topic after this post - and I repeat "different folks, different strokes" - but PEY? Really?

I confess I am only invested in three PE trusts and had never heard of PEY until your post just now. Please forgive me if I have the wrong end of the stick, but are you referring to Princess Private Equity? I think the statement in the RNS accompanying the suspension......... "This suspension has been deemed necessary in light principally of the significant reduction in the Company's liquidity due to the strengthening of the US Dollar against the Euro, which led to outflows of more than EUR 60 million year-to-date to settle currency hedging contracts. In addition, challenging debt markets are currently limiting the facilitation of asset sales across the industry.".....is the reason for the share price fall not the income investors ditching it???

At offer price currently, PIN 48.7% discount. Dividend paying ICGT 45.1% discount.
I know, I know, small sample size, different firms etc.....but PE trusts have been beaten up this year - I am hopeful they will come through it. I think that the idea that PIN announce a dividend and income investors will narrow the discount meaningfully is unlikely.

Dividends are a pain for non-income institutions and unless PIN institutes a SCRIP (which is an administrative nightmare) they're a pain for me as I incur frictional costs on the re-investment. Clearly not the case for all investors.

Posted at 02/11/2022 12:19 by starpukka
So basically PIN aren't paying a div because it would bite into management's payouts. And their institutional investors aren't requiring divs from the co. And PIN don't care about the large discount to NAV so they don't care if the share price rises or not. And us PIs have no real power to force a div or a buyback. Is that about right ?
Posted at 02/11/2022 11:45 by skyship
PEY today provided the proof, if proof were needed, of the inevitable link between
yield and discount.

PEY announced that their high dividend would henceforth be less secure, just 2 days after revealing a further 1% rise in NAV for September.

The Market's immediate response has been to slash the share price from 9.54 to 8.24; so
that the discount widens out from 33% to 42%

Further proof of the incontrovertible link between yield and discount.

If PIN were to reveal a new dividend policy, say at 4% of NAV. The share price would just
as rapidly rise from a discount of 49% (250p) to perhaps a discount of 35% (320p).

That would deliver a 28% uplift in the share price; and further progress likely from there in view of PIN's great long-term history.

Posted at 21/7/2022 21:12 by skyship
Well, what I'm saying is that the PIN share price is anomalous v. peers. An anomaly is always an opportunity.
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