Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[kreature] 20/10/2024 18:21

So manufacturing scale up for invisible customers ? How does that work ?

[kreature] 20/10/2024 18:17

Sweetbottix Update Jan 2024 RNS
‘ Manufacturing scale up with Firmenich slowed during and after their merger with DSM, as anticipated, but resumed in late autumn 2023 as Firmenich moved manufacturing scale up from its contract manufacturer to DSM's in-house manufacturing facilities.‘
…..’ Given recent progress, the Company's focus has moved on from manufacturing scale up to engaging with commercial partners to launch products. Discussions are ongoing but are likely to involve a phased introduction….’


June 2024+RNS
‘ Second generation products (SweetBiotix and MicroBiome Modulators/Synbiotics)
As with any step change innovation this has been a long and difficult path with significant challenges, particularly on scale up, ’

Scale up for what? Where are the customers ?

[putinaire] 20/10/2024 10:01

And given the last RNS,the business acumen is 2nd to none

[putinaire] 20/10/2024 10:00

Yes the ingredients are bog standard. But nobody has the same trademark

[kreature] 20/10/2024 09:50

Yes, unique imv apart from the ingredients? Eg glucomanin in the slimbio to make you feel full.

[putinaire] 20/10/2024 08:29

Truly unique I'd say

[farrugia] 20/10/2024 07:31

Are OPTI's products unique or is it true as I've heard that there are dozens of such similar companies? The only thing different is that OPTI is a listed entity?

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:35

That deserves to be the final post of the night

reature19 Oct '24 - 23:31 - 66983 of 66986
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Could that system be inadvertently misused tho?
Eg.
A Factor loves what they see and invests in an AIM company, and is given shares and options….
Virtual overseas customer raises order.
AIM company sends virtual products and an invoice to virtual customer
The Factor pays the invoice to AIM company for the overseas order
SP rockets on news and financial update.
Virtual customer inadvertently fails to pay back Factor
Factor forced to sell shares and options at a massive profit
Sp crashes.
Everyone’s a winner.
Oh hang on

?

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:33

'Infklormal chats' are an important part of the process

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:31

Shocking you don't have to declare a format used that the books don't have to show

[kreature] 19/10/2024 22:31

Could that system be inadvertently misused tho?
Eg.
A Factor loves what they see and invests in an AIM company, and is given shares and options….
Virtual overseas customer raises order.
AIM company sends virtual products and an invoice to virtual customer
The Factor pays the invoice to AIM company for the overseas order
SP rockets on news and financial update.
Virtual customer inadvertently fails to pay back Factor
Factor forced to sell shares and options at a massive profit
Sp crashes.
Everyone’s a winner.
Oh hang on

?

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:28

Reverse factoring has awful consequences for investors . Not just making a business look like it has business that it doesn't. But it can mask some serious debt as well until a pyramid scheme is over . In fact it can do many other things. And accounting standards on AIM make it all even easier to dress

Awful

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:12

Even easier with companies far far away

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:11

''It’s interesting cos looks like you can do without customers and products''

Yes very easily actually...as long as permitted in AIM rules 😂

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:10

You get the net loss to claim tax credits 😂

In the interim, informal chats were held prior.. seeder makes....everyone makes real cash really...

Nearly everyone lol

[kreature] 19/10/2024 22:09

It’s interesting cos looks like you can do without customers and products, just so long as it’s permitted in AIM rules ?

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:07

I've looked at some examples

Buyer orders...

Supplier claims to fulfill order

Raises invoice

Buyer has revese factoring. Supper gets paid direct from financier . Most likely pays the money owed to financier. You have the invoice. Supplier has the cash. No product created at all

That legal?

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 22:00

Reverse factoring, really interesting subject

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 21:59

''Fresh air invoicing performed well. Sales of informal chats about stock movements increases sales factoring x10'

[kreature] 19/10/2024 21:59

Wonder if you could use reverse factoring for invisible products ? Just an idea

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 21:58

'No good reason should see an operational net profit in 2026, if accounting laws don't change'

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 21:54

Then call the orangutan to write about how great no good reason is

[putinaire] 19/10/2024 21:53

Just RNS funding stating there is no good reason at all. People will buy anything it seems