Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[elrico] 07/11/2017 23:57

Paul - You ask a very good question. I gather our resident Victor Meldrew is continuing with his "I demand to see the peer review" and I am not going to have the wool pulled over my eyes by man nor beast, and definitely by that lapdog Elrico. Perhaps Chris is desperate to portray he has a superior grasp of the science behind the LP-LDL and wants to impart his wisdom. Perhaps Chris has some advise he wishes to share with the authors, Prof Glen Gibson and Pro John Swann.

I opened the door for anyone wanting info. All he has to do is PM me with his email address and I'll furnish him with everything I have on the subject, including the documentation used at the Probiota conference which was used in the peer review.

Has Chris got round to explaining where he magicked my 6 figure investment from? No! Just as I suspected. It is like asking Michaelmouse to explain his accounting deceptions I debunked - they remain unanswered also. Perhaps I'll get answers to all of them in a Christmas card.

[nicktopten] 07/11/2017 21:53

Thanks DC..... there are a few words in that Ive not come across before... and the pictures? !! Given time, I might scratch the surface though! Just been helping my son with GCSE Biology, so thanks again for the heads up!
Seriously though... it looks like a fantastically well laid out piece of work and anyone with a background in biochemistry would lap it up, Im sure....

[loungeact] 07/11/2017 20:08

Chrisg11 has a lot of expertise. He'll translate all this for us.

[incanus] 07/11/2017 19:54

Wow, that must be the science bit dc.

[elrico] 07/11/2017 18:25

Rayrac - Why don't you do us all a favour by sharing your woes with BPRG/Meldex and compare it with your humble opinion on the parallels with OPTI. I'm sure it would make for an interesting discussion. Thus far the only success you have is making yourself look ignorant to new science, new niche areas the world over is getting excited about and you seem oblivious to it.

As for the peer review...there is some background on it here:

The peer review is in a scientific publication (can't remember it but you don't care anyway) which is a subscription service but believe it becomes available online in a few weeks. In the meantime this is a peer reviewed abstract of the study carried out by Reading University presented at ProBiota ( )and an accompanying scientific poster. Note: authors such as Prof Glenn Gibson and Pro John Swann are LEADERS in their field and as leading academics would not be associated with poorly conducted, poorly analysed, or studies with a commercial bias. This abstract was accompanied by a poster which won the best poster competition.

The observant PI will note that there is a lag period between the end of a study and the data being reported, because it goes through an independent peer review process BEFORE publication to ensure SCIENTIFIC VALIDITY of methodology, data collection and analysis, and reporting. This process is robust thus given OPTI confidence in the data and is in addition to the peer review process which takes place before publication of any result at scientific conferences.

You will always get detractors and commentators who want to blur the science for their own purposes as can be seen with the debate on climate change. It is perfectly natural to be sceptical of new science, especially ahead of commercial process. However, those that do attempt to detract from the bleeding obvious, do so at their own costs, not mine and those that had done their own research and happened upon the same conclusion I have; in that OPTI has been significantly derisked in 2017, but with a mere 5 months of transition from R&D to commercial there remains room for sceptics until they see the money. Fine, no issue with that either, we have our own risk thresholds. However, simply screaming fraud at the top of your lungs in a library for attention then running out the door giggling - try some reasoned debating based on FACTS not childish behaviour.

I have the abstract and poster mentioned. Anyone wanting them only need to PM or email me.

[1bokke] 07/11/2017 17:54

Hey rayrac how's Ukog doing?

[rayrac] 07/11/2017 17:35

Bioprogress, I can smell it all over this!

[rayrac] 07/11/2017 17:33

Peer review anyone? Help those less fortunate, or it may look suspicious to newbies!

Judi, help!

[judijudi] 07/11/2017 16:23

Someone still cranking a few out

[1bokke] 07/11/2017 15:56

Mind you don't trip over the sarcasm..steady as you go.

[1bokke] 07/11/2017 15:54

Chris it might help if you explained and demonstrated what research you have done and then others on here could point you in the right direction. I suspect you haven't had any advice yet as people are worried they may have you duplicating your efforts.

[moormoney] 07/11/2017 15:44

I agree pglancy. Chris finds it impossible to post without sarcastic comments and arrogance, no place for that on any bb IMO.

[pglancy] 07/11/2017 15:06

Do you really expect elrico to help after your antics ffs or anyone.

[loungeact] 07/11/2017 14:50

Just got a tiny bit more..1855 showing as a sell.

[zebbo] 07/11/2017 14:39

ooopppps wrong thread

[zebbo] 07/11/2017 14:37

think ill get me some more prized thingys this afternoon

[elrico] 07/11/2017 14:12

Slarty - I'll be sure to take my rose tinted to a well known opticians before I go to HRH Friday. :)

[chrisg11] 07/11/2017 13:45

Quite funny rodders to be fair and I laugh at myself with you but it doesn't help my research.

Anyone?

A link to one of these peer reviews?

[onedayrodders] 07/11/2017 13:35

Chris ...start your messages with "Only me"

[chrisg11] 07/11/2017 13:33

Hello

Its me again..

Every couple of posts or so it seems someone states that the LPLDL trial has been peer reviewed and I am absolutely sure it has but where can I find these peer reviews?

I am sure elrico has one so can someone ask him to post it on here instead of keep repeating the same things on here ad nauseum.

I am trying to do some honest research so please link me to at least one peer review so I can read their comments.

Thank you to anyone who hasn't filtered me due to my quest for evidence.