Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[someuwin] 28/1/2019 15:49

If they used cash from OPTI operations then they should return the cash back into OPTI coffers. Not give it out to a select few shareholders (of which SOH would be by far the biggest beneficiary).

Of course, if SOH is so keen to reward long loyal shareholders then maybe he will forego his SBTX divi payout to increase the pot? no - thought not.

As for me, I've been here since the start. (even earlier as I was a holder of Ducat Ventures which OPTI reversed into)

[imnotlong] 28/1/2019 15:46

Risky, can ask ask your thoughts on opti’s Valuation, currently circa £75m.

As per Primals post from SoH last week, it stated that Probiotix could be floated at £20m-£30m (which includes its IP and income stream). If Opti retain 75% of that then that is £15m-£22m. If you add to that Opti’s interest in SBtx of £9m that only comes to just over £30m. That leaves Slimbiome and Sweetbiotix valued at £45m with next to no income.

So is £75m good value or not? Based on the above I would say not. So what am I missing?

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 15:43

Is it just me or is Dazah account talking to Dazah account as if he was Rayrac? Think you forgot to change accounts LOL. Trying to deceive people into thinking Elrico is not genuine is a waste of time considering the efforts he puts in to research and in addressing genuine investors concerns. Dazah you are a sad disgrace.I'm baffled at the lengths these sad people will go. Surely they must get paid to do this or are really bitter? Very strange

[scotty1] 28/1/2019 15:43

Cannot for the life of me think why someuwin doesn't ban people like Dazah who has been found out to be anything but honest,what is the point in setting up moderated threads if you are not wilingl to get shot of the likes of Dazah etc.

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 15:36

Sum the Divi of SBTX is to release some profits back to shareholders of an asset that was never in original IPO plans. Instead they used funds which were raised for their core platforms to buy SBTX. They are basically returning those funds via a divi and retaining the free ride if you like to benefit from the growth of a SBTX going forward. Hardly 'share price engineering' guess your not too impressed because your a trader.

[dazah] 28/1/2019 15:33

I would try to find elricos post of 24th Jan.

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 15:29

Dazah your cover is blown mate no need to try and be that 'honest investor that has honest concerns over execution' you have to understand and invest in that company before you have genuine concerns. You have done so many Uturns your opinion is worthless. Your attempt at rubbishing LTH as people that jump on any negativity and your clear lack of engagement with Elrico who could address your 'concerns' with the ceo in an afternoon are solid examples of your mission to deceive. You may as well just change your username and try again....you can then add another worthless tick up to your posts

[dazah] 28/1/2019 15:23

Elrico.

Looks like you've deleted a post which even Parob has linked to above saying it was hot off press/early hours so a recent post.

However on now clicking that link takes you to an old post in November last year.

"New OPTI blog by Elric posted in the early hours!


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Please elrico furnish with the ORIGINAL text of this blog please dated 24th Jan. This is YOUR post that had the "worst to come" line is my suspicion. I have merely quoted the link that used to point to a blog post dated 24th Jan. I just clicked it now is dated November last year.

[someuwin] 28/1/2019 15:18

We would all be better served if he abandoned the idea of an SBTX dividend totally.

Its a one off distribution that will reduce the value of OPTI going forward.

SOH should stick to generating core business rather than share price engineering for his own benefit. No wonder institutions are reluctant to get involved here.

[dazah] 28/1/2019 15:08

Elrico, I'm going to have to do a bit more research I'm sure you've deleted a post on your blog. Maybe I'm wrong, let me investigate and find exactly what article had that line.

Okay in the mean time please stop saying I'm deceiving or anything like that as you are portraying me to be something in am not.

I am a shareholder who is unhappy with OPTI execution. I do not subscribe to the LTHs on here basically say well f off then and sell if I'm unhappy.

On the other hand it just bothers me how the LTHs here berate and humiliate people with not so rosy views, it's like a childhood secret society on here in that everyone has to be positive.

Nothing yet show us the money. We are given the usual line that it takes time to agree with large corporates and that we're so good don't have to take an offer.

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 15:00

It wouldn't be SOH trying to rig in his favour it would be so that distributing a divi would actually be economically worthwhile and would reward the long term holders building a stake over the years. Legally they can limit the distribution to holders that have above a certain number of shares. Obviously if you reduce the registrar the overall proportional price of the divi increases.It would not make economic sense to find out all the details of everyone on the register and distribute a divi. To do this it would take far more time, effort and money which as you say if they sell and distribute 10% of SBTX to everyone, financially it would be pointless exercise and nothing to get excited about. Basically from what I hear if you have a reasonable holding you'll be rewarded. If you trade in and out on small number of shares at a time these are the shares that they can take off the register increasing the divi price for the remaining majority of loyal holders. Why should someone that invests a small amount the week the divi is announced get the same divi as someone who has held for years. Not only would they get a divi but because they would be on the registrar they would bring down the average price of that divi for LTH who have invested more and have held for much longer. IMO reducing the registrar is fair and increases the divi price making the dividend a worthwhile reward to those who have supported the company. It goes with what SOH said a while a go about trying to reward LTH and trying to limit short term traders from getting a divi.

[dire cons] 28/1/2019 14:15

Elric, I was being sarcastic towards the time waster.
These morons are just lying, bitter, sad losers, but if we don't call them out, newcomers could fall for their lies.

[primal123] 28/1/2019 14:09

I would urge all to filter and stop responding. I filtered him ages ago but there are so many of you wasting your time on him, there is no point! Just filter and ignore!

[slartybartfaster] 28/1/2019 14:00

dazah
28 Jan '19 - 11:50 - 45924 of 45934 (Filtered)

I don't see the point in lying about something can can easily be proven a lie. BBM!

[humphries1] 28/1/2019 13:33

dazah
28 Jan '19 - 11:50 - 45924 of 45933 (Filtered)

[jamesrs1] 28/1/2019 13:20

Dazah. Anybody who claims to have 60k Of shares in a company and constantly tries to bring it down with negative posts must be backwards. You did say you were leaving for awhile. It lasted two days.

[someuwin] 28/1/2019 13:18

That's how dividends should work. If you're on the register before ex-dividend day you get the divi.

I very much doubt SOH would try to rig it so that he receives a bigger payout at the expense of recent holders.

[elrico] 28/1/2019 13:12

Dire Cons, ignore the serial liar and deceiver (Dazah), his motive is clearer now after twice, or is it thrice he has misquoted me for his own agenda. If there is contempt in me it is for liars and deceivers; they are a special kind of evil in the world.

The absence of the link to the latest quote and the context is missing because it only exists in his imagination. And he wonders why people jump all over him. They do so because they see his lies and no amount of voting himself up with the aid of the 3 trolls is going to improve his chances of taken seriously, Dazah is becoming the new Rayrac....nobody trusts or takes seriously. If that is your goal in life...

Dazah, not only do you ignore the hand of friendship, you spit on the hand. In my experience, your time will come - I hope you reflect on it when it does. Shame on you!

For the record, "latest" on SBTX.


SBTX archives

Judge for yourself who the liar and deceiver is.

and OPTI


OPTI archives

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 12:58

It's not a limited company though is it....legally they can choose whether they distribute, how much they distribute and what criteria comes attached in order to obtain the divi. Otherwise you could have people investing at the last second and getting the same as someone who held for many years.

[scotty1] 28/1/2019 12:56

Dazah you obviously don't have share in OPTI at the moment and i very much doubt you ever held 60ks worth.

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dazah - 04 Jan 2019 - 09:28:44 - 44975 of 45930 OptiBiotix - Better Science, Better Health. Better buy some! - OPTI

Shrewd so when you say you have a 7 figure holding thats over 1 million shares? That's impressive mines only 60k lol.

[rafboy] 28/1/2019 12:48

I would think the divi has to be given to all holding on a certain date.

[someuwin] 28/1/2019 12:48

Nope.

Seeing as the company is owned by all the shareholders. All shareholders must receive an equal share of any profits / dividends etc.


"By law, a limited company can only distribute dividends in an equitable way – i.e. in proportion to the number of shares owned by each shareholder"

[riskybusiness1] 28/1/2019 12:30

In terms of the divi they're going to distribute after SBTX has risen in value. They have lots of options on how they wish to distribute. For example they can give it to people who have held shares for a certain time period or have over a certain amount of shares 20k+ for example (which could push 1p divi up to a 10 -20p divi). SOH family hold significant portion of Opti therefore I would not underestimate

[dire cons] 28/1/2019 12:16

Can you copy and paste that comment by Elrico here please? I can't find it.
Thanks

[dazah] 28/1/2019 11:50

Even elrico says on his latest blog worse could yet come...

Elrico you did say that so please don't jump on me.