Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[owenmo] 08/3/2018 23:22

And just maybe, one of the days, we'll see a Stateside influence energising the share-price; like tomorrow?

[monkeywench1] 08/3/2018 22:37

Lol keep ramping.

[loungeact] 08/3/2018 21:28

...and to think with all this LP-LDL talk, OPTi also have a healthy alternative to bulk sugar. Once all the opportunities really start to sink in for people - we’re heading to the moon!

[speccy1] 08/3/2018 20:38

Oh happy happy day!

I've been driving up to the Lake District today and we were 0.5p up when I left home. Much joy when I logged on.

Just a few more p and I'll be in the black. Come on OPTI!

So nice to read the BB after months nay years of frustration.

The excitement here is sizzling.

We're so close to something mind blowing. Not only for our investment, but for the health and well-being of tens of millions of people all over the world.

Opportunities like this don't come up very often. I've been excited here for over 2 years, but now I'm beyond excited.

Here's to a spectacular 2018!

[shrewdmole] 08/3/2018 20:37

Nice interview. Very positive and you can bet soh is being cautious still.

Lovely reversal on the chart and some nice regular chunky buys that we haven't seen for a long time.

It's still just the start here for me as each Rns and interview gains more belief and exposure and more importantly increases potential revenue growth.

Like I said earlier soh has all 5 of them golden tickets to the chocolate factory.

[parob] 08/3/2018 20:22

SOH's proactive interview earlier today was the best in a while IMO - lots of detail and you can really hear the excitement in SOH's voice - no wonder there was a flurry of buys just after the release and the price ended up 9%!

Here's the link for anyone who missed it earlier:



And just to think we're still in the early days of the commercial roll out phase. So much more to come.

[elrico] 08/3/2018 20:18

Michaelmouse - I know I'm wasting my time exchanging views with you, because the counter view to yours is always better, hence the filter excuse. This rebuttal is not for your benefit, but those passing through. You still have unanswered rebuttals from way back, when you got the numbers wrong, among other things. So, on to the next rebuttal.


1: SOH isn't imply cash burn is £80-90k pm, he is using the historical accounts. But you know this, you are just being devious. However, I am right pleased you seem to have adjust your original cash figure, because by your previous prediction OPTI should have had at least one more "bailout funding." SOH has predicted profitability in calendar 2018. Lets see what the commercial update has in store and perhaps we can look forward to a rousing forward looking statement.

Where when have OPTI BOD predicted £2 profits for 2018? This is a lie isn't it!!

2: I'm sure a man of your repute will be well aware, forecasting sales is always tricky, though very easy to do if your BOD likes to pump their book. However, as SOH has stated many times, forecasting sales of new products, with new science in new territories is very difficult to do, so he avoids doing so. Yes, frustrating isn't it.....for a non holder and holder alike.

You are of course correct, they may well not meet the sale/revenues desired. However, a couple of pointer for you. However, I note you seem to ready to believe AA are going to greatly increase TRAKM8 profitability with their partnership, yet you have no evidence for this....DOUBLE STANDARDS ME THINKS!

a: CSL, SACCO and Fine Foods don't invest in new products and new production capacity without DD. SOH is on record stating these expansions are as a result of growing interesting OPTI products. So what you are saying is these MN are wasting millions of $ and Euros. Interesting point of view.
b: each partner has 3 years contract and is performance related.

3: We have been here before.....you know full well the FY accounts are released around the end of April...but you know this don't you!

We are all aware of your opinion, which is of course clouded by your grudge against me and TW. Your recent trolling on twitter and then here have demonstrated this only last week.

You may use the share price to dress up your opinion as being vindicated. However, a cursory glance at several stocks of your investments demonstrated a similar pattern of share price stagnation or worse. However, what really matter is the fact most of us are in very early and for the long haul, as you yourself have often advocated, buy and hold, have faith in your research ...unless it's a elrico holding or a TW tip.

We are well aware the company only entered the transition from R&D to commercial last May, as such a risky punt, even though the science has been independently validated.

You may want to argue your case for who should be embarrassed; some of us invested at 15p and while there is a case for selling at much higher levels, who is to say this is now....after all, we have held this long, why not continue when all the sign-posts suggest there is much more to come, with new partnerships still to be announced, new products to be launch in spring and the much sort after retail listing soon to be realised. You'd be a seller now!

[pj 1] 08/3/2018 20:15

Any time!! TT-your round first?

[18081] 08/3/2018 20:04

It's worked !

The clown has rose to the bait - lol

To coin a *monkey* phrase
'I didn't think the derampers could make themselves look even more stupid'

Now I can continue to have a good laugh next door )

He's our own little Sandie Shaw. ;)

[trotterstrading] 08/3/2018 19:50

PJ sounds like you are on your way to being won over mate, careful you will be lumped with us OPTImists soon ;0)

[elrico] 08/3/2018 19:43

whl - Believe me when I tell you I'm the poor relation when it come to OPTI shares if I compare with anyone that has declare their holding to me. ;)

PJ - Indeed, the Lancaster Bombers (ales) went down just lovely the other week. Must do that again.

[pj 1] 08/3/2018 19:38

Lancaster.

[whl2] 08/3/2018 19:31

"He's a lightweight :)"

Not in OPTI shares !!!!

[slartybartfaster] 08/3/2018 19:25

He's a lightweight :)

[incanus] 08/3/2018 18:43

We have over 500 beers in Belgium, elrico must be on his 300th by now.

[2350220] 08/3/2018 18:25

I'd like to add my thanks to Elrico for his tireless research and generosity on sharing these insights with us.
Hope that you have a great time in Belgium Elrico.
Great place for really interesting range of beers.
John

[jimmylufc] 08/3/2018 18:23

Thanks for the note Elrico- hoping they are going to have a rethink about the badge and perhaps focus on what is happening on the pitch (which hasn’t been a lot lately ! Heading up there later in the for a game so fingers crossed they improve !

[elrico] 08/3/2018 18:16

Thanks Jimmy. Have you got over the badge yet? Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. ;)

[elrico] 08/3/2018 18:15

Try as I may to get info on products to-date, so we can truly gauge the interest and market penetration - I wasn't successful. However, I have learned OPTI have around 30 formulations of LP-LDL and working with which have the science, cost structure, and synergy to create a wide product ranges. Of course it remains to be seen if they can monitise all of these formulations. It's clear they are capable of using them in wide range of formulations for specific conditions, and in a wide range of deliver mechanisms that we know of. Conspicuous by its absence, are the dairy products - No doubt this is in the pipeline and in the capable hands of SACCO, whom are developing this market separately.

The pipeline of products is growing with each partner, for example, SlimBiome has been shown it can be used in breaded products, coffee, biscuits, yoghurts, gummies (kids sweets apparently), muesli pots, porridge pots, healthy snacks such as yoghurt coated fruits, bars and meals, and of course cereals a puffs, flakes etc. No doubt some of these will be launched via GoFigure, as well as the online store, which will of course act as an important shop window, which is very important because LP-LDL & SlimBiome are backed by science and FDA approved. It naturally follows, each product launch not only derisk the company, it validates the science behind the product(s), this in turn adds value to the product(s), the IP and the company platforms and of course, the company as a whole.

I also tried to encourage product eta announcements, citing both HLH and Galenicum had no issue telling me when I asked. However, SOH makes a very important point on this, which hadn't occurred to me.

"We agree timelines with partners but am wary of sharing with investors as these are outside my control and often change. Making a statement based on others promises is high risk. We typically limit deals to 3 years (life of the contract, NOT window to have a product on sale) with opt-outs for performance issues so they have to move quickly".

From memory, these performance related contracts have a 10% yoy sales growth built in. Important, as this ensures the partner has an incentive to grow sales or lose the contract, which of course protects OPTI from being lumbered with a partner not putting in the structure to build sales.

Increased production capacity by partners; CSL, SACCO and Fine Foods would suggest they take this seriously.

[jimmylufc] 08/3/2018 18:14

Nice one Elrico - well deserved and good to be heading over there on a high note!

[elrico] 08/3/2018 17:48

£15 is about what it takes to get me inebriated on Belgium ales. That's where I'll be tomorrow and weekend, so it will be a quiet period from me.....hurray!!

But before I go....TBC