Nmc Health Share Discussion Threads

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 23:20

Dragon heart should contact them immediately

[dragonheart1] 26/2/2020 23:19

Agree with you Karate_boy. It’s all in the open and company is making steps to sort things out, not concerned one bit. It’s back at $11.75 in after hour trading in the US that’s £9.10, so don’t expect this to go too low tomorrow shorters otherwise you will massively disappointed!! Over 50% stock is owned by large IIs, and they snapped the stock up recently at bargain prices, do not seeing any major selling from them. Just Claremont alone can put this over £10 tomorrow :).

[dragonheart1] 26/2/2020 23:17

Couldn’t agree more tsmith- the scaremongering and misinformation being spread by some of the mof0 shorters on here and the LSE board is unbelievable! What morons! I don’t see this going below 850 tomorrow and could easily close above £9. US Is at £9.10 right now. So that’s only 3% down from today’s closing London price. All baked in price already!

[shrewdie] 26/2/2020 23:17

Class Action - I suppose not unexpected but will not help.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/equity-alert-rosen-top-ranked-215700973.html

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 23:11

Did any of you apologise to muddy waters for spurious claims that they were wrong?

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 23:09

What a massive ponzi scheme of fraudulent debt and payment terms
.slaughter

[tsmith2] 26/2/2020 23:08

UNWOUND IN LINE WITH EXISTING TERMS..so this pretty much a disclosure issueslet's entertain that 1/3 is irrecoverable and NMC foot cost. That would be sub £100mn.compare that with the amount that's been wiped off market cap..

[tsmith2] 26/2/2020 23:06

the board is clearing the decks and doing everything it needs to do.The facilities have been in place since early-2018. The draw-down on the facilities as at 31 December 2019 was approximately $335 million and the current draw-down on the facilities is the subject of ongoing verification. Having been made aware of these arrangements, the Board has determined that the facilities will no longer be made available for further supplier financing with the aim that the relevant balances should be unwound in line with existing terms.

[dragonheart1] 26/2/2020 22:59

F00k off shorters, you are going down!! Keep dreaming, this is at 910p in the US right now.

[seekthetech] 26/2/2020 22:58

Tssmith. What they are is the siphoning off of the company’s cash to the fraudulent owners. What is wrong with these delusional people!!!

[dragonheart1] 26/2/2020 22:56

Over 50% of the stock is now owned by major investment funds and banks, they have been lapping it up like there’s no tomorrow :). I am seeing a strong recovery here over the coming months! Solid buy! Bring on £20 in a few months time.

Holder Shares % Held
Capital Research & Management Co. (World Investors)
AS OF 19 FEB 2020 21.69m 10.39%
Hermes Investment Management Ltd.
AS OF 14 FEB 2020 12.52m 6.00%
Wellington Management Co. LLP
AS OF 18 FEB 2020 10.08m 4.83%
BlueBay Asset Management LLP
AS OF 11 FEB 2020 9.80m 4.70%
Norges Bank Investment Management
AS OF 19 FEB 2020 8.48m 4.06%
BlackRock Investment Management (UK) Ltd.
AS OF 20 FEB 2020 5.25m 2.51%
1832 Asset Management LP
AS OF 20 FEB 2020 4.09m 1.96%
Northern Trust Global Investments Ltd. (Securities Lending)
AS OF 02 FEB 2020 2.85m 1.37%
Legal & General Investment Management Ltd.
AS OF 19 FEB 2020 2.70m 1.29%
Capital Research & Management Co. (Global Investors)
AS OF 31 DEC 2019 2.37m 1.14%

[tsmith2] 26/2/2020 22:56

given the mechanism can't see what material impact that will have once unwound.Board should insist on a fee or similar for the duration the facility has been provided

[seekthetech] 26/2/2020 22:55

Hey Dragon. I’ve got a pile of shares in another stock trading at 50p. My break even is 100p. They are massively undervalued and should be 354p. Since you are a brilliant value investor, I’ll cut a great deal and let you take them off my hands for a bargain 100p. What say you?

[tsmith2] 26/2/2020 22:55

They've effectively guaranteed payments due by other related party companies presumably based on credit worthiness of NMCso a case whether it should have been disclosed in the accounts or not. being unwound as the related companies make payments that fall due..Clearly Freeh is independent as is board. And board clear up issues

[redbaron10] 26/2/2020 22:52

Quite.Don't make yourself a victim.

[dragonheart1] 26/2/2020 22:51

Agree with you Karate_boy. It’s all in the open and company is making steps to sort things out, not concerned one bit. It’s back at $11.75 in after hour trading in the US that’s £9.10, so don’t expect this to go too low tomorrow shorters otherwise you will massively disappointed!! Over 50% stock is owned by large IIs, and they snapped the stock up recently at bargain prices, do not seeing any major selling from them. Just Claremont alone can put this over £10 tomorrow :).

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 22:42

But this is life. Short is better than being a victim

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 22:36

redbaron1026 Feb '20 - 22:35 - 8314 of 8315
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Sadly a lot of innocents out there who don't know what's coming.With the mountainous global debt out there and the unfunded pension liabilities accruing it is one big Ponzi scheme Madoff would have been proud of.Abandon all hope.

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Yes lol

[karateboy] 26/2/2020 22:35

No doubt company directors involved in some kind of under the table arrangements.these are now known and few directors removed. So this is positive. Company has also guaranteed none payments of up to $330 million of goods and services the companies owned by some removed directors. These payments are being paid by the companies themselves..so far there is no material impact on the NMC. They are now stopped. So the company is sorting itself out . This is the way I see it.So let's see how market sees it .

[redbaron10] 26/2/2020 22:35

Sadly a lot of innocents out there who don't know what's coming.With the mountainous global debt out there and the unfunded pension liabilities accruing it is one big Ponzi scheme Madoff would have been proud of.Abandon all hope.

[sentimentrules] 26/2/2020 22:28

Silverstone126 Feb '20 - 22:18 - 8308 of 8310
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IT'S NOT IN MY PENSION BUT GAINS AND LOSSES ARE CAPITALISM!

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That's true but most people with pensions dont even realise the destruction going on. They are basically told to subscribe for later years . That's it. It's all they know. So there are a lot of truly innocent victims

Years of repair to pension required due to nmc

And that's if you are not caught out retiring soon

[redbaron10] 26/2/2020 22:26

Makes me laugh when people think their pensions are going to get paid.Dreamers.