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[bluebelle] 04/12/2011 18:19

ducatiman - 4 Dec'11 - 14:47 - 2416 of 2421
Any pinot noir fans ...........

Whilst varietals have certain characteristics, the final product depends - much more than with melanges - on three things : the skill of the vigneron, the terroir and the weather. Chardonnay is perhaps the best example - the oily NZ's are not to my taste but Chablis is - but pinot noir no less so.
Where I live, red wine (some of it sold in Sainsbury's - Domaine de Colombier for over 25 years, although I agree with bamboo : I've given up on Sainsbury's not just for wine but because their target market now appears to be yobs rather than people attracted by the notion that 'Good food (used to) Costs Less at Sainsbury's) is all made from Cabernet Franc and the white too is single varietal.
I have tasted wines from the same year made from vines grown within 200 metres of one another and the difference - because of the terroir - is amazing. I have also tasted the same wine, made by the same producer in different years, and there are some striking differences - 2003 v. 2005 for example.
For me, it's a source of endless fascination, not least because the only thing that really matters is what the person who is drinking it thinks of it, regardless of what it costs or where it comes from !

[bionicdog] 04/12/2011 17:24

If it was that nice I'd have finished it then opened another one.

[ducatiman] 04/12/2011 16:49

bamboo, where I live there is little choice, however I can always find a suitable wine at sbry and quite often find a pleasant surprise. Last one was gulfstation pinot noir during a 25% offer. Had half the bottle of yali yesterday, has been in the decanter at room temp since, will revisit this evening to make sure, lol. Will report back later. It is 13.5% by the way.

[bamboo2] 04/12/2011 16:25

chilean carmenere sidesteps some of the peppery twang of many a pinot noir.
The own label coop fairtrade chilean carmenere is superb. only £6.99.

there's another v. nice one from my local independant called Anakena. it's a 2009 super smooth 13.5%.



duc, i've stopped buying wine [and most groceries] from sainsbury over the last year or so due in part to the appalling wine range. i'll look out the yali
though.

[ducatiman] 04/12/2011 16:07

bionic, agree re chilean pinots but this one is definately not typical. Strongly urge you to try.

[bionicdog] 04/12/2011 15:55

I've never been keen on Chilean pinots , which I think this is. They always seem to have a bit of pepper in them , which although fine in a cabernet sauvignon , seems a bit odd in a pinot. I did get half a dozen Oyster Bays down from £10.79 to just over £6 in the recent Tesco "sale".

[ducatiman] 04/12/2011 14:47

Any pinot noir fans should head straight down to sainsbury, they have a Chilean pinot noir called "yali" reduced by 25% to £7.49 and you get another 25% off currently in their wine promotion. This is an outstanding pinot noir imo.
Would be very interested to hear any feedback if anyone samples. tia and Slainte, duc.

[valhalla3] 27/11/2011 21:51

get it down yer "=#

[maxk] 27/11/2011 21:43

One for dog...

[bamboo2] 27/11/2011 20:39

still verry quite here. try this....


that's artesia rioja/tempranillo. v nice!

[bionicdog] 16/8/2011 22:22

If they can't tell the difference , they should buy the cheap stuff.
I suspect that it's all the same stuff with different labels. Waitrose used to sell Los Unidos fairtrade carmenere , but no longer , it's probably relabelled for another store.

[bamboo2] 16/8/2011 22:20

quiet here these days!
28 april i was extolling the delights of coops fairtrade chilean carmenere.
i just found sainsbury's 'i can't tell the difference' chilean carmenere, also f/trade, to be just as good/almost the same!

well i never.

[ariane] 08/7/2011 20:56

Champagne Harvest Is Set to Start at Earliest Since 1822 After Dry Weather
QBy Vidya Root - Jul 8, 2011 5:02 PM GMT+0200 .
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Business ExchangeBuzz up!DiggPrint Email ...The champagne harvest this year is set to start on Aug. 20, its earliest debut in 189 years, as dry weather in France hastens the ripening of grapes.

The only other time the harvest began this early was in 1822, the Comite interprofessionnel du vin de Champagne, a national association of champagne makers, said in an e-mailed statement.

"After an unseasonably severe winter and a spring that was more like summer, the vineyard calendar has been moved forward," the group said. "The dry weather up to now has kept parasites and diseases at bay, the bunches of grapes are in excellent condition."

The association said in March that more than 319 million bottles of champagne were sold in 196 countries in 2010 for 4.11 billion euros ($5.89 billion), as the market rebounded after a two-year slump.

France had its second-hottest April since 1900 this year and also one of the driest springs in half a century, according to the Agriculture Ministry. Rain in June was only slightly above normal.

"This is the first time that Champagne has seen the combination of a significant lack of rain during the spring, strong sunshine and an exceptionally early blossoming," the association said.

Champagne Region
The home market remains the biggest for the drink, followed by the U.K., the U.S., Germany and Belgium.

Champagne is produced exclusively within the Champagne region in France, about 80 miles northeast of Paris. The grapes used in the production of the drink are Pinot Noir, Chardonnay and Pinot Meunier.

Paris-based LVMH Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton SA (MC), which owns champagne brands such as Veuve Clicquot, Moet & Chandon and Dom Perignon, is the world's biggest champagne merchant.

To contact the reporter on this story: Vidya Root in Paris at [e-mail]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Tim Quinson at [e-mail]

[football] 29/4/2011 00:11

CHARLES MELTON NINE POPES 2008

;)

[football] 29/4/2011 00:11

CHARLES MELTON NINE POPES 2008

;)

[jazza] 28/4/2011 23:58

max shops at Lidl?

who'd have thought it!! ;)

[maxk] 28/4/2011 22:19

2009 Chianti from Lidle's, of all places...

It's really nice imo, cant believe it. £5 quid a bottle.


sorry dog, I know you'll be puking, but this stuff is even better than Blue Nun!

[bamboo2] 28/4/2011 21:52

taking of good value wine, the coop carmenere [chilean] is superb.
only drawbacks,
1, seems permanently sold out
2, one bottle is never enough



edit, if thats sold out, a bottle of the coop argentinian malbec, is also worth a try.

[bionicdog] 20/4/2011 18:59

Well said that man. The cheapest thing that I'll consider pouring down my neck is Oyster Bay. Currently on special at Waitrose. £45.55 a box.

[valhalla3] 20/4/2011 18:57

jacobs crrek n hardyz r lame i cant stand em, they all taste like cardbord an make u scrunch ur gob up lyke ur chewin a sour gobstoper. W=#

[chutes01] 20/4/2011 18:53

worth investing in English Wines Group, see ewg thread, large purchase by director this week, and the fizz is pretty decent, all the best.

[bionicdog] 20/4/2011 18:43

Riff raff.

[bionicdog] 14/4/2011 13:27

I accept the challenge.