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[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:47

always 1st,

Just as a matter of passing interest, are there actually ANY non Jews in your part of the Universe?

[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:42

fibbinarchi,
"pvb - 12 Nov'05 - 14:35 - 135 of 135


"..the Army is there for the people who haven't the ability to think for themselves (the low IQ'd)."


Funny you mention the army as I couldn't get in Fibbinarchi, as I couldn't complete the application form."

I rest my case, LOL.
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Goodness! What a CLEVER forger you are fibbinarchi! Why we've all been taken in by this. Everyone on this board can see what a fool I've made of myself - courtesy of your good self!

Heavens to Betsy! Where would we all be without your astute and unflagging vigilance! (LOL!)

[Abuse team] 12/11/2005 19:38

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[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:36

corrientes,

Interesting points. I suppose only time will tell. Unfortunately, I have an uneasy feeling that conspiracy nutters are with us long term. I hope I'm wrong...

[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:33

XenaWarriorPrincess,

"Hubble has insufficient resolution to show details as small as the lunar rover and flag, as anyone who has half a brain would guess, and anyone who has a slightly larger brain would have clicked on the link at the top of the thread which takes you to another link which shows in detail why Hubble has insufficient resolution."

I did just that. Will it deter the nutters? No. Nutters are never deterred by reality - that's 'cos the're nutters...

(As an aside, I have to confess that I was actually quite surprised to learn just how far outside the Hubble's resolution seeing the remains of the lander actually is. My defence is that these kind of distances etc are not readily graspable, being outside everyday experience. It just goes to show...)

[corrientes] 12/11/2005 19:33

Despite the undoubted scientific knowledge here, the anti-Bush and therefore anti-American rhetoric gets just anywhere these days. Had it have been the Russians landing on the moon, there wouldn't have been so much as a whimper.The
new found interest in aliens, UFO's and all that jazz,a natural follow through of the conspiracy theories that abound today, is just symptomatic of the deep distrust of Bush and Blair.Like all these fads, and there have been many of them over the years, they'll disappear when Bush/Blair disappear. Talk about subliminal advertising ! Not a few people just can't help flowing with the tide,no matter the level of intelligence.

[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:26

StewJames,

"The Hubble will never be pointed at the moon. Not because they have something to hide, but because use of the instrument is in huge demand and there would be an outcry if it was used for something so absurd. And let's face it, even if it produced a crystal clear image the conspiracy nuts would never accept it!"

Indeed! I've made these very points before myself, on this very board. However, reality will never deter the mugwumps. That's because they are mugwumps.

[pvb] 12/11/2005 19:23

strategy and luck,

"Then why did most US/UK radio 'Hams' claim that the alleged signal from the moon was actually a reflection of a signal from Earth...that is until many were threatened with having their licences revoked if they didn't retract their remarks?"

Any evidence for this piffle?

[xenawarriorprincess] 12/11/2005 18:08

Hubble has insufficient resolution to show details as small as the lunar rover and flag, as anyone who has half a brain would guess, and anyone who has a slightly larger brain would have clicked on the link at the top of the thread which takes you to another link which shows in detail why Hubble has insufficient resolution.

And they do have the rocks, which are unlike any Earth rocks - but of course they and the scientists who examined them are probably fake also.

But if you really want to see what is real click on this link:



as it is very interesting.

The Moon is afterall only 250,000 miles away, my car has almost travelled as far (but not in a straight line), and I do not believe that mankind is stuck in some sort of Victorian timewarp which makes it impossible to advance more than a few miles above the Earths surface.

[stewjames] 12/11/2005 18:03

The Hubble will never be pointed at the moon. Not because they have something to hide, but because use of the instrument is in huge demand and there would be an outcry if it was used for something so absurd. And let's face it, even if it produced a crystal clear image the conspiracy nuts would never accept it!

[netcurtains] 12/11/2005 17:47

don't they have the rocks?

[fibbinarchi] 12/11/2005 17:31

OK brains, point the Hubble at the moon and lets see the buggy and flag.

[corrientes] 12/11/2005 16:48

When they discover a US flag in the years to come, i expect that'll be fake also. And when the person who discovers it, makes the claim, he'll be a fake person also. And when the person who claims the fake is a fake, he'll be a fake as well. And it'll all turn out that everything and everybody you've ever known is a fake. And then you should shoot yourself, because you're also a fake. What a load of fxkers.

[keyhole] 12/11/2005 16:47

S&L

Just because you can't understand something, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen..... I'm not a rocket scientist or a fuel expert, so I can't answer your question about energy. But I am reliably informed that according to experts a bumble bee should not be able to take off - but it does.

My reference to 'real-time' means not recorded. And everyone understands the transmission delays. Of course when the LEM was on the far-side of the moon all data was recorded on board. When the spacecraft signal was re-acquired by the tracking station, a high-speed dump was performed of the recorded material.

You're either a believer or not. Personally I couldn't give a toss. It was one of the best little earners I've ever had.

[fibbinarchi] 12/11/2005 16:38

Excellent post strategy and luck, a well presented argument.






"pvb - 12 Nov'05 - 14:35 - 135 of 135


"..the Army is there for the people who haven't the ability to think for themselves (the low IQ'd)."


Funny you mention the army as I couldn't get in Fibbinarchi, as I couldn't complete the application form."

I rest my case, LOL.

[strategy and luck] 12/11/2005 16:23

keyhole,

Then why did most US/UK radio 'Hams' claim that the alleged signal from the moon was actually a reflection of a signal from Earth...that is until many were threatened with having their licences revoked if they didn't retract their remarks?

Interesting that you were in "voice and real-time data" contact with the Astronauts when the round trip for a signal should take approximately 3 seconds at the speed of light. The conversations between NASA and the "Astronauts" typically contained 0.25s to 0.5s gaps between question and reply.

There are many reasons why the information fed by NASA was false and the moon landings were faked. For example, there isn't enough energy in Hydrazine or Hydrogen/Oxygen to lift enough of it from the Earth, carry it to the moon and take off again! Later, when pushed, NASA changed their story to a top secret fuel called Dinitrogen Tetroxide. The sceptical scientists rushed away and calculated that it still wouldn't have contained enough energy!


NASA claim that they left reflective cubes on the lunar surface for calculating Earth-Lunar distance yet they don't have the lunar co-ordinates of any of the Apollo landings! Can a LASER be shone 250,000 miles to a small cube and reflect enough light to be detected back at the source? Even if a LASER was parallel to 0.0002 of a degree the resulting pool of light at the lunar surface would be 2 miles across! The amount reflected back from a 30cm cube to a detecting point on the Earth would be significantly less than ONE photon...therefore undetectable.


For an interesting discussion on this, along with other impossibilities surrounding the NASA missions try the old thread:

[keyhole] 12/11/2005 15:52

Were the Apollo moon landings faked?

Well, if they were, the several years that I worked for NASA as a Telemetry supervisor in an Australian tracking station was a complete fake also.

On each mission we were in direct contact both with voice and real-time data with the crew and spacecraft components - S4B, Command Module and the LEM. I can recall seeing biomedical data of the 3 crewmen (pulse rate, respiration rate, ECG) being recorded and sent back to Houston for analysis, as was all the telemtry data. This utilised PCM tecniques, years before any commercial use was made of this high quality standard.

There's no way that so many of us who were proud to participate in the program would have not known about any scam.

[pvb] 12/11/2005 14:35

"..the Army is there for the people who haven't the ability to think for themselves (the low IQ'd)."

So, when are you applying fibbinarchi? Keep us informed!

[jami dodgers] 11/11/2005 20:04

Truth is I don't fancy paying for something that 's already been in the public domain for free.

[fibbinarchi] 11/11/2005 19:41

pvb = goverment puppet = someone who can't think for himself.

So what's the only hope for this half wit?

Answer: You should join the army and give your life so Blair and Bushes oil stocks can increase in value, with the added bonus that the Army is there for the people who haven't the ability to think for themselves (the low IQ'd).

They even tell you when to get up, what to do in the day, right up to the time you have to go to bed. Now that must be comforting for you not to have to waste a single thought..

[maestro.] 11/11/2005 19:40

jami..contact andrew who runs the site,he'll be only too pleased to help you

[jami dodgers] 11/11/2005 19:26

Maestro, thanks but no luck.....it does have the last bit where the astronauts are talking at the White House but not the "forgotten tape".....did anyone copy this originally? I wish I had.......need to show it someone.