Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Lms Capital LSE:LMS London Ordinary Share GB00B12MHD28 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.40p -0.78% 50.60p 31,291 16:35:09
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
49.20p 52.00p - - -
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Financial 7.60 8.40 6.0 40.8

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Lms Capital Daily Update: Lms Capital is listed in the General Financial sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker LMS. The last closing price for Lms Capital was 51p.
Lms Capital has a 4 week average price of 50p and a 12 week average price of 50p.
The 1 year high share price is 53.50p while the 1 year low share price is currently 44.75p.
There are currently 80,727,450 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 175,200 shares. The market capitalisation of Lms Capital is £40,848,089.70.
pavey ark: Good set of results but still more value here. Strange to see the National Energy Partners loan note valued at £2.96m. I suppose there are exchange rate concerns but if they don't pay then surely they don't get the company. My estimate for value of this loan is closer to £4m over four years with reducing capital and interest applied. Gresham house is due to give an additional £1.25m in shares in June (subject to certain conditions) and LMS will almost certainly exercise its warrants at the same time. Depending on the GHS share price I see LMS holding 15%-17% of GHS and I certainly rate GHS. As usual all of the unquoted holding appear to be at rock bottom prices. All in all I'm happy with what is going on and good to see the running costs coming down at quite a good rate.
cwa1: There's a wholly unfamiliar blue hue surrounding the LMS share price this morning. Another screen fault?
skyship: Hi Tilts It's in the Header under the chart; but also here:
pavey ark: Swiftnick, what it should show you,if you didn't know already, is that most PIs can't work a calculator or make individual decisions. The share price has just moved to where it should have been and still a very comfortable 23% discount to NAV.
swiftnick: Not complaining that the share price is up 10% this morning, but all that has happened is that they've announced what they said they were going to announce at a price that people were expecting.
skyship: Armstrong Investments slightly increases its holding - up from 2.8m to 2.9m; and in doing so crosses the 3% threshold (3.007%):
pavey ark: As has been posted previously, there comes a point in every share price when all the bad news is in and all the deserved selling has taken place and yet the selling continues. A 40% discount is quite a buffer. The £11m buy back at 95% of NAV , although in two stages, should be this year. GHE is on the up and LMS should have 15% of the company if warrant are exercised. (these warrants have just gone "in the money"). You pays your money, you takes your chance but there comes a point when you have to question when/if things have gone too far. I have a small (residual) holding here but had the calculator out this morning and may add. My views on LMS are no doubt improved by the fact that I have a holding in GHS and like what they are doing there.
skyship: This is what Simon Thompson (The IC) replied a week ago to a query on his LMS thread: "There is substantial value here. The directors have 'kitchen sinked' the valuations ahead of the transfer of the mandate to Gresham House. I was correct with the first half currency gain - £6.8m, or 6p a share - but this was offset by a £8m plus unrealised loss on investments for disposal. Net liquid assets are around £15m, or 14.5p a share as predicted. NAV of 88p is 46 per cent more than the current share price and in effect a quarter of the share price is cash. My view is that sterling has further to fall, so giving a boost to the portfolio which is 70 per cent US dollar denominated, and with a better asset manager in place then there is scope for the share price discount to narrow markedly. Also, the above 88p NAV excludes the free shares in Gresham House worth 1p a share, and the likely value added through the £1.5m invetsment in Gresham House warrants. I remain a buyer of LMS shares." I've been in & out of GH many times in the past. New management installed there; and now they will be running LMS - that has to be an improvement. Also, to invest where they want to invest, they need to sell existing LMS assets; and that will in turn trigger the 2nd & 3rd Tenders. So, there are big changes here - sufficient to keep me on board.
skyship: After the bizarre happening last Summer when the LMS Capital (LMS) BoD tried and failed to usurp shareholders wishes for liquidation, many continue to harbour doubts as to the Board’s probity. However, there is no escaping the 4 principal facts: 1. Their past performance with the liquidation process has been impeccable, with 63% of the NAV at the start of the process having already been returned – a figure equal to the MCap at the start of the process 2. The liquidation process is again on track with a 28.7% tender at NAV in Dec’15 3. At the AGM last month the BoD again reaffirmed the liquidation process and the continuing return of capital through Tenders; and for the first time they put a timescale to completion of the process – essentially by Dec’17 4. The current NAV = 88p; versus the offer price of 63p; ie the shares are trading at a full 28.4% discount, even though in liquidation mode These are the basic facts which should justify an element of research. That research will quickly uncover last month’s AGM statement which revealed that already the Company is refilling the cash coffers – now up to £15m, so likely halfway to what will be needed for the next Tender. So, now one needs to practice a little conjecture. Say the next Tender will be declared again for 28.7% - that would translate to 29.7m shares @, well let’s be conservative and predict an NAV fall from 88p to 85p, so @ 85p would cost £25.25m. Note – we already have £15m in the kitty! So, buy @ 63p…..sell a minimum of 28.7% @ 85p…..yes, that’s a profit of 35% on that part. But wait, it gets better. First, there is the official Tender overage – that was an additional 3.4% in the last Tender, the 4th Tender providing these profitable trading opportunities. Add to that the unofficial overage which arises from having your stock held in a Joint Stock Nominee Account. I got another 7% from Selftrade last time around – a total of 39.4% redeemed at NAV. Many posters on the LMS thread did even better than that. The Nominees overage is a fickle friend paying out better for some than for others – but always more! This aspect will only make sense to the professional investor; but the few who visit here are just that, so I won't dwell on that. The final soupcon of information for the time-being. The well-respected IC tipster Simon Thompson has just revisited LMS. He wrote a piece on LMS yesterday. I won’t post his entire article as the IC Online is a subscription site; however, I will post his closing remarks: ======================= “Of course, the fall in LMS's net asset value from 96p last autumn, to 92p at end of December 2015, and to around 88p now will make some investors cautious even though the aforementioned one-off hit on an unlisted investment and the fall in Weatherford's share price account for the vast majority of the decline. However, I believe the discount is simply too deep given the impressive track record of the company in successfully divesting its interests. I also believe that given the surge in the cash pile, and the fact that LMS's uncalled commitments to funds it has invested in is only £4.1m, then it's only reasonable to expect LMS to make another hefty cash return later this year through a tender offer pitched at net asset value, a factor that is simply not being reflected in the share price. The company is due to report results at the end of July and I would anticipate further news on likely capital distributions then. I would point out too that every time the company has announced a tender offer the share price has bounced back strongly. Needless to say, I rate LMS Capital's shares a buy on a bid-offer spread of 62p to 63p.” ==================== So, in a difficult year VALUE is hard to find. LMS certainly represents VALUE. And if you are still looking for a hedge against a plunge in CABLE following an unlikely BREXIT vote, the LMS portfolio is 66% $-denominated.
strathroyal: I know that the share price drifted badly on the change of strategy idea but now that a further tender offer has been confirmed, I can't understand why so many are getting out at this price. 2014's tender was only 22.5% (30% this time) and the NAV was 95p (expected to be the same if the exchange rate and WFT share price remain as they are). The share price during the 2014 tender period stayed in the mid-80s which makes the present share price look cheap. I'm staying put and may even add if the price drifts again now that ST has had his say.
Lms Capital share price data is direct from the London Stock Exchange
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