Kibo Energy Share Discussion Threads

[catchingmice] 06/8/2017 22:03

I dont understand how i can be called a paid deramper when i feel the share price could actually reach 15 -20p Aimchimp.Not only that but why would I be writing on a forum @ 10pm on a Sunday night if I was being paid to do so.Like you say the Happy clappers want you to be in agreement with everything they say and that kibo could be worth £4 per/share.Already given my prediction and I am sticking with 15p-20p and no more.I honestly think I don't be far off either.

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 21:57

Does any one bear the implication of this? It clear there very real concern of FDI into Tanzania with policy reforms at present but you not like this mention for some reason? What will be effect on this?"Tanzania is extremely reliant on foreign direct investment (FDI) - the mining sector, the oil and gas industry, and the primary agricultural products sector attract the most FDI . Notably, foreign investment has largely been driven by the discoveries of more than 53 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves in Tanzania over the last decade .The UN Conference on Trade and Development's (UNCTAD) estimates that Tanzania has accumulated FDI stock of US $19.818 billion, the highest in the East Africa region . However, in 2017, the World Investment Report of UNCTAD reported that in 2016 Tanzania only attracted an estimated US $1.365 billion of FDI inflows – a 15% decrease from 2015. This drop has been largely attributed to increased investor concerns over the country's regulatory environment and tax policies towards foreign firms .However, although the government may feel encouraged and emboldened by its high-profile dispute with Acacia, it also risks undermining its larger economic plans by deterring investors, which Tanzania so largely relies on.Furthermore, while President Magufuli has demonstrated his sincerity in the government's fight against corruption and levelling the playing field when it comes to who benefits from natural resources, there is a risk that potential short-term financial gains could come at the cost of long-term investment. It is yet to be seen whether these new measures will benefit the country and the economy in the longer term.Ultimately, this could all be part of a wider plan to nationalise the natural resources sector – at a time when Tanzania's oil and gas appears to promise substantial rewards."

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 21:57

And so they come and say this like the ones with a view which not in keeping with theirs are "paid deramper" and try to say any thing to discredit these posting. There two side to every coin, I find development in Tanzania very interesting to see and how this will effecting. You not like the questions asked on the discussion board because you see them also but do not want to ask them or answer them as you do not want to confront the FACTS. You talk of blind mice? The ones blind here are the ones not seeing both side of the coin.Who are ones who try to move discussion away from here to other distractions? Why would they be doing this?I have said before there the ones who are telling the tall tales and suggesting they have the inside information from the company are the same who aggressive and try to discredit the ones who have real questions that they do not want asked.Where is SMLWhere is ESIAWhere is PPAWho will be cornerstone financing What is monies situation in companyHow much has been taken from drawndown Who is the one selling their stock position downI think important question to be asking of anyone considering a investment any where you should see all faces of the coin.

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 21:54

Thank you Lurker5 for contribution to the discussion, it still seem that some of this board are trying to de rail the discussion away from the questions that are being raised as it not in their interest for these questions to be asked, it very obvious why they not want these questions asked or discussion to take place as it not suit the agenda of some here.

[guitars4stars] 06/8/2017 21:33

Only scan read it Lurker as overuse of words can appear desperate? Couple of observations...1) You called Kibo wrong and need to find a good place in your mind to accept this #Karma2) 'supliers' has two P'sBest of luck with your 'other investment' Ehem! :)

[lurker5] 06/8/2017 21:10

I see that Mr Dudley doesn't know (among the simple maths that he doesn't know) what other companies are building / already own coal (and oil and gas) to power projects worldwide. If he did any research he would find many. Some are owned by conglomerates listed on stock exchanges. Others are single IPPs listed on their own country's stock exchange. From them he would learn that they tend to be valued at just around their cost to build (if new). - which is what any intelligent investor would expect. Kibo hasn't got the money to build MCPP. If it raised enough, or any true 'partner' (those excitedly discussed by SonnyBoy et al are wannabe 'supliers' - not financial 'partners') raised their own share they would all end up owning an asset valued at about what they all spent to build it. Great ! Where does that leave the clappies (among whom I suppose counts Mr Dud) who think their Kibo shares will suddenly become worth more than they're going to have to pay to build ? - Or even, Praise Be! - will suddenly become worth more than now without they're having to spend a penny !
Once he has digested the implications of that. He might (though there is no hint that he has the thinking ability) turn his mind (for want of a better word) to the real questions the clappies should be asking LC. Why doesn't he find the mugs to build and own the low margin power station and just retain for Kibo the coal mine which, he has said, appears to be much more profitable and if so would (unlike the power station) really add value to Kibo shares. Although, because it is a much smaller operation, it wouldn't add anything like the fantasy values the clappies 'calculate' for the integrated project. But LC says nothing. Maybe - on the high margin figures he has published for the mine alone - the Tanz Govt realises it would be giving Kibo too much of a 'mining licence to print money' - and so is insisting on an integrated project and perhaps on a limit to the coal price feed into the power station. These are the real questions. But of course the clappies have none of the education to spot them.

[guitars4stars] 06/8/2017 20:50

Onemel,Good to see you've spotted quickly the usual 'paid suspects' agenda that is well documented & I know that companies take slanderous accusations seriously - quite rightly too....Looking forward to the week ahead & good luck with your investment in Kibo (something Chimp & co might struggle to synergise with...)On a lighter note check this out - you couldn't make it up - tick ups as predicted by the '3 Blind Mice' PMSL!!!Catchingmice - 06 Aug 2017 - 19:19 - 5103 of 5105 - 3

[catchingmice] 06/8/2017 20:25

7.25 BID COMING ON WEDNESDAY PMSL

[onemel] 06/8/2017 19:01

G4,there's certainly a lot of interest around kibo lately, whether it be bb or media,7.25 bid next week? I have no idea mate,could easily be 4.75 ( the norm ) 3.25 ( unexpected placing ) 14.5 good news re funding :-) who knows, I certainly don't, but why is lurker so bothered about what happens!! Personally, I'm happy to wait, there are certainly worse countries and companies out there :-)

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 18:58

Does any one bear the implication of this? It clear there very real concern of FDI into Tanzania with policy reforms at present but you not like this mention for some reason? What will be effect on this?"Tanzania is extremely reliant on foreign direct investment (FDI) - the mining sector, the oil and gas industry, and the primary agricultural products sector attract the most FDI . Notably, foreign investment has largely been driven by the discoveries of more than 53 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves in Tanzania over the last decade .The UN Conference on Trade and Development's (UNCTAD) estimates that Tanzania has accumulated FDI stock of US $19.818 billion, the highest in the East Africa region . However, in 2017, the World Investment Report of UNCTAD reported that in 2016 Tanzania only attracted an estimated US $1.365 billion of FDI inflows – a 15% decrease from 2015. This drop has been largely attributed to increased investor concerns over the country's regulatory environment and tax policies towards foreign firms .However, although the government may feel encouraged and emboldened by its high-profile dispute with Acacia, it also risks undermining its larger economic plans by deterring investors, which Tanzania so largely relies on.Furthermore, while President Magufuli has demonstrated his sincerity in the government's fight against corruption and levelling the playing field when it comes to who benefits from natural resources, there is a risk that potential short-term financial gains could come at the cost of long-term investment. It is yet to be seen whether these new measures will benefit the country and the economy in the longer term.Ultimately, this could all be part of a wider plan to nationalise the natural resources sector – at a time when Tanzania's oil and gas appears to promise substantial rewards."

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 18:56

And so they come and say this like the ones with a view which not in keeping with theirs are "paid deramper" and try to say any thing to discredit these posting. There two side to every coin, I find development in Tanzania very interesting to see and how this will effecting. You not like the questions asked on the discussion board because you see them also but do not want to ask them or answer them as you do not want to confront the FACTS. You talk of blind mice? The ones blind here are the ones not seeing both side of the coin.Who are ones who try to move discussion away from here to other distractions? Why would they be doing this?I have said before there the ones who are telling the tall tales and suggesting they have the inside information from the company are the same who aggressive and try to discredit the ones who have real questions that they do not want asked.Where is SMLWhere is ESIAWhere is PPAWho will be cornerstone financing What is monies situation in companyHow much has been taken from drawndown Who is the one selling their stock position downI think important question to be asking of anyone considering a investment any where you should see all faces of the coin.

[guitars4stars] 06/8/2017 18:43

Onemel,Good luck with your investment & don't get too drawn in to the now ramping Aim Mice quoting 7.25 by Wednesday - however possible it is of course in 'my view' - lol....Important to do your own research & maybe check out the LSE too where respected posters like Sonic & Yaki etc spend more time with quality debate away in fact from the '3 Blind Mice' paid de rampers (all same person of course you will easily spot them as they chat to themselves)Hysterical post today - would you believe that Aim Chimp talked of freedom of speech lol - I've never come across a deramper fighting the 'Noble' cause to continue deramping lol Let's see what the week brings & what a giggle if Wednesday sees 7.25 bid - what do you think - out of the question? Dave

[dudleym1975] 06/8/2017 18:31

Lurker your mistaken and you know you are. The way you people are trying your best to cause so much doubt here is now bordering on pathetic. For idiots not even invested answer these1. Why do you care what kibo has or doesn't2. How short are you here?3. Name me 1 other company that is also completing a coal power project but has or is completing it 4. Why are you people so worried for others here5. So you people like to talk to yourselves on a regular basisThe fca have now confirmed due to the number of complaints received regarding unlawful practices occurring with kibo they are now in the process of looking into this. I would urge the paid derampers to be warned.

[onemel] 06/8/2017 18:13

Been investing on aim for many years, lost a lot of money, but made much more, seen the likes of lurker many times, just ask yourself why he's posting? Top up for me tomorrow, thanks boys :-)

[catchingmice] 06/8/2017 17:40

Some excellent posts on here which makes a change from the usual cretins on here Dudley and Guitar boy where it would seem they are the same person.Anyway WEDNESDAY will soon be here when the BID is 7.25 as predicted by the HAPPY CLAPPER from LSE.So REMEMBER IT'S NOT MONDAY OR TUESDAY BUT WEDNESDAY 7.25 BID.PMSL

[lurker5] 06/8/2017 14:06

Hope you're not being ironic Patch (difficult to tell sometimes on this BB - as well as on the kindergarten that is 'the other place'). But Magufuli's behaviour will have put off any sensible international investor - no matter how much it is painted as 'rationalising Tanzania's honest expectations. Investors care nothing for such niceties. They just want certainty - which Magufuli has irreparably destroyed for a generation at least.

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 12:53

It for discussion and providing alternative balance view, this is what these are for.

[patch13] 06/8/2017 12:24

Great find chimp - thanks for posting - I will definitely change my investment strategy because of this.......

[aimchimp] 06/8/2017 11:44

What positive words you want to put on this? It clear there very real concern of FDI into Tanzania with policy reforms at present but you not like this mention for some reason?"Tanzania is extremely reliant on foreign direct investment (FDI) - the mining sector, the oil and gas industry, and the primary agricultural products sector attract the most FDI . Notably, foreign investment has largely been driven by the discoveries of more than 53 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves in Tanzania over the last decade .The UN Conference on Trade and Development's (UNCTAD) estimates that Tanzania has accumulated FDI stock of US $19.818 billion, the highest in the East Africa region . However, in 2017, the World Investment Report of UNCTAD reported that in 2016 Tanzania only attracted an estimated US $1.365 billion of FDI inflows – a 15% decrease from 2015. This drop has been largely attributed to increased investor concerns over the country's regulatory environment and tax policies towards foreign firms .However, although the government may feel encouraged and emboldened by its high-profile dispute with Acacia, it also risks undermining its larger economic plans by deterring investors, which Tanzania so largely relies on.Furthermore, while President Magufuli has demonstrated his sincerity in the government's fight against corruption and levelling the playing field when it comes to who benefits from natural resources, there is a risk that potential short-term financial gains could come at the cost of long-term investment. It is yet to be seen whether these new measures will benefit the country and the economy in the longer term.Ultimately, this could all be part of a wider plan to nationalise the natural resources sector – at a time when Tanzania's oil and gas appears to promise substantial rewards."