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[mroalan] 27/1/2021 12:53

serratia, don,t want to get picky here but your statement said,
"Glaxo don't own Pfizer." you ignored my reply and now moved on to another subject.

[mroalan] 27/1/2021 12:25

The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the acquisition of Pfizer's Consumer Health Business by GlaxoSmithKline. The decision is conditional upon the global divestment of Pfizer's topical pain management business carried out under the ThermaCare brand.25 Nov 2020

[serratia] 27/1/2021 12:06

Glaxo don't own Pfizer.

[mroalan] 27/1/2021 10:11

mabel 12327 Jan '21 - 09:30 - 102906 of 102908
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My goodness. Just take a look at all those coincidences.

A read of less than a minute.

[john3v16] 26/1/2021 19:16

Well worth a look 'b4' you down tick it.

[john3v16] 26/1/2021 15:28

Your Future at risk

Off topic-

hxxps://www.jdfarag.org/

Prophecy update January 2021

Trans human vaccine

A video for these with questions about the C19 vaccine

Pastor JD continues Part 2 of "Decision Time."

He quotes Dr Simone Gold in this powerful message together with Bill Gates.

[mroalan] 26/1/2021 14:08

"Despite the free trade deal agreed before Christmas, which promised to smooth the UK's exit from the EU, new taxes and charges now apply to almost everything that goes back and forth between the two, including gifts, second hand items, products bought on Amazon or eBay and from private sellers."

free trade indeed,mro.

[mroalan] 26/1/2021 10:26

Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey held the central banker’s line against cryptocurrency proliferation at the Davos conference Monday.


Theres a shot over the bows,mro.

[mroalan] 26/1/2021 10:18

"Confidence in one day affording retirement surges among young people despite the pandemic as they take more interest in pensions"
Its from Daily Mail wants me to disable my adblock,er no! lambs to the slaughter, by the time they qualify say 75/80 years of age the word pension will just be a word in the history books,mro

[maxk] 26/1/2021 09:01

Who'd have guessed?



Covid-19 aid schemes hit by ‘eye-watering’ levels of fraud, says National Crime Agency official Graeme Biggar


ames Hurley, Enterprise Editor
Tuesday January 26 2021, 12.01am,



Graeme Biggar, of the National Crime Agency, told MPs that the bounce back loan scheme had been set up in a way that created a significant risk of fraud
Emergency Covid-19 schemes are being subjected to an “eye-watering” level of fraud, one of Britain’s most senior crime fighters has warned.

Graeme Biggar, of the National Crime Agency, said that there would be “substantial” losses for the taxpayer related to criminals targeting multibillion-pound taxpayer support such as the wage furlough and the bounce back loan schemes.

Mr Biggar, director-general of the agency’s national economic crime centre, which co-ordinates efforts to prevent fraud, told MPs that investigations were continuing in relation to attempts to swindle the bounce back scheme, which has provided £43.5 billion to 1.4 million small businesses.

This is in addition to the arrests on Friday of three men who work for a London financial institution in connection with a suspected £6 million bounce



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[chestnuts] 26/1/2021 08:55

Mro

In March this yr when i started with the awful cough and then i got pins and needle on my tongue i simply gargled with salt water and with in 36hrs pins and needles disappeared, so yes i can see iodine helping but also just gargling with salt and water works. I cant say it was covid 19 as i wasnt tested.

[mroalan] 26/1/2021 08:28

John,i,ve lifted your post,thanks, mro.

[the chairman elect] 26/1/2021 07:41

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donald pond25 Jan '21 - 21:32 - 4246 of 4254

Fantastic presentation, just watched it and mentioned on twitter

[johncasey] 26/1/2021 03:18

Controversy over possible use of iodine mouthwash in fight against Covid
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Controversy over possible use of iodine mouthwash in fight against Covid
Helen Rumbelow, writing in The Times, has investigated the possible use of an iodine mouthwash as a way of combatting Covid-19. She interviewed Professor Stephen Challacombe who told her “I have no doubt that this should be used and had it been, it would have saved lives.” But questions have been raised about how significant its use would be.

Helen Rumbelow reports in The Times that Stephen Challacombe, professor of oral medicine at King’s College London, with a specialism in the immunology of the mucous membranes, says that if you’ve got people with extremely high values of Covid in the mouth and give them an iodine mouthwash “you will reduce that risk immediately,” When the pandemic struck, Challacombe and his colleagues wrote to the British Dental Journal reminding the scientific world of its potential.

Challacombe says that the priority are healthcare workers, especially those working with a lot of saliva, such as anaesthetists and dentists. The American Dental Association, and equivalent bodies in Australia and South Africa, have recommended that dentists ask their patients to mouthwash with iodine or chlorhexidine before procedures. The British Dental Association has refused to follow suit; Professor Damien Walmsley, its scientific adviser, says it is waiting to see results of larger trials.

Rumbelow reports that there have been ‘a flurry of studies showing the effectiveness of iodine mouthwash on Covid-19 in test tubes’. They repeatedly concluded that after 15 seconds in contact with a weak solution of this kind of iodine 99.99 per cent of the virus was killed. There soon followed several tests on humans with Covid-19, but in numbers too small to draw conclusions. They indicated that iodine mouthwash pretty much wiped out the Covid-19 for a time. What is needed is larger studies, especially into how long iodine keeps Covid-19 at bay. Sceptics say that the effect could last just a few useless minutes, and point to a mixed bag of results for iodine mouthwash against viruses such as colds.

Given that this mouthwash is safe, cheap and easy, should we be using it before we have robust evidence that it kills the virus in humans? This story becomes in a way a test case of how to balance risk and responsibility, Rumbelow says. On the one hand the government’s scientific advisers and the British Dental Association’s verdict is a conservative and cautious no. This mouthwash is well tolerated, but there may be unforeseen risks and little gain. As Ian Jones, a virology professor at the University of Reading said, the mouthwash may kill the virus, but it may be back in no time; it’s “the constant replacement of the virus that is the issue”.

Challacombe appreciates this reliance on the normal high standards of scientific proof, but he also thinks that these are extraordinary times. Given the strength of the test tube evidence, and “the low risk, minimal cost and global applicability”, Challacombe says, “we feel that there is little to lose and potentially much to gain [to use it] while we get that information”.

We think of Covid-19 as a coughing illness and assume that the well of infection is in the lungs. However, a study in the Journal of Dental Research in April found that actually it is more active in the salivary glands. This was a key shift in understanding: the mouth wasn’t just being contaminated by the lungs, it was likely to be the main swampy breeding ground of the disease. “The virus replicates in the salivary glands in the mouth, of which you have hundreds,” Challacombe says.

“This advice that I have just told you did go out to Nervtag [the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group], which is the scientific committee below Sage,” Challacombe says. “The question they asked is: how long did it last? And of course we didn’t have that evidence. That’s what has held it back.”

In September another joint American and German study, published in the Journal of Medical Virology, tested mouthwashes against test tube coronavirus. It led the study’s author, Craig Meyers, professor of microbiology at Penn State College of Medicine, to conclude: “I would say wear your mask, do your social distancing. Do what you’re supposed to be doing, but this could just be an extra help.”

What is the responsible course of action? In August the governor of Osaka in Japan looked at the limited but encouraging human studies of iodine mouthwash on Covid-19 and told the public: “It’s worth giving a try.” Japan already has an established culture of using iodine mouthwash against common infections, but within hours there was panic-buying across the country, leaving the shelves bare. The Osaka governor’s comments got a slap from the World Health Organisation Centre for Health Development, which responded: “There’s no scientific evidence that gargling medicine prevents the coronavirus.”

The Times article (Paywall but some free access available)

hxxps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/could-a-cheap-iodine-mouthwash-really-help-to-beat-covid-ntpp5mtv0

Challacombe letter to BDJ

British Dental Journal volume 228, pages656–657(2020)

Research article in SSRN

Kirk-Bailey J, Combes J, Sunkaraneni S, Challacombe S. The use of Povidone Iodine nasal spray and mouthwash during the current COVID-19 pandemic for the reduction of cross infection and protection of healthcare workers. Available at: hxxps://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3563092

[7kiwi] 25/1/2021 22:33

EU mafia threatening to delay vaccine delivery to UK.

EU threatens to block exports of Pfizer Covid vaccine

[mad dog7] 25/1/2021 19:44

has this been in UK media?

WHO advisor: COVID-19 pandemic likely started via lab leak
Calls wet market origin story a lie

Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Publishing date:Jan 23, 2021 • 2 days ago • 2 minute read



One year after the pandemic started, World Health Organization advisor Jamie Metzl wants China to come clean about the origins of the COVID-19 virus.

The Kansas City-born, New York-based Metzl, who served as Deputy Staff Director of the Foreign Relations Committee under then Senator Joe Biden (2001-2003) and before that on the National Security Council (1997-99) and the State Department (1999-01) under President Bill Clinton), theorizes it was most likely an accidental lab leak in Wuhan.

[the chairman elect] 25/1/2021 19:25

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qazwsxedc6925 Jan '21 - 15:51 - 4221 of 4234

Sadly unable to make the presentation this evening, but grateful for anyone who has the chance to give a brief summary later.....

1airbag25 Jan '21 - 16:15 - 4222 of 4234

looking forward to it at 5pm.

Nash1925 Jan '21 - 17:29 - 4223 of 4234

Permitting totally in the bag !

Nash1925 Jan '21 - 17:29 - 4224 of 4234

Very confident on financing !

garryvaughan25 Jan '21 - 17:37 - 4225 of 4234

Presentation Very positive , very exciting times ahead for all of us ...

teapot22225 Jan '21 - 17:43 - 4226 of 4234

Positive presentation if a little short and sweet. The only key takeaways I got apart from the clear positivity on achieving milestones were that 1) they want emmerson to be a multi nutrient business 2) debt financing and permits definitely on schedule and 3) the most important sentence in the whole presso was that strategic investors were to come in at a PREMIUM to the prevailing share price.

cyberbub25 Jan '21 - 17:44 - 4227 of 4234

Very positive presentation!

[fireplace22] 25/1/2021 17:02

mro, covid deaths of the >80's? Where was it I read far fewer cases of flu this year, less people dying of dementia, bet its the same for heart disease etc. They all opted for covid instead (or someone did for them).