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Joules Group Plc JOUL London Ordinary Share
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Posted at 02/12/2022 10:10 by debsdowner
Tom Joules made a packet when he listed co and sold a led load of shares, made more money as a director, company goes into administration then he does a deal with NEXT to gove him a good stake and makes more money as a director.

Nice one if you can get it and leaves shareholders high and dry out of pocket !

Lessons to be learnt:

Be careful with IPO's a number like ASOS and BOOHOO are still leaving shareholders in tears.

Be careful with what you read in the press as to investors in companies, seems the car dealer been shafted here as well and management took him for a complete mug.

He must be really miffed over been taken round head office and left out of any deal. His take small change compared to some shareholders but Tom Joule has made him look like a complete fool.

He boughtrin what he thought was cheap then the company do a deal behind his back. Maybe he had a hint of something dodgy going on not increasing his stake further.

What is unfortunate as quite a few shareholders followed him in buying more shares.

NEXT are probably the biggest winner here buying a company for just over £30 million and could be making £10 million a year or more in a few years time.

M&S missed out here howeveer but you have to be careful with a bidding war in this climate.

Posted at 20/11/2022 16:36 by debsdowner
1dakata,

Don't blame yourself we all make mistakes it did look at the time that he may have been a lifeline increasing his investment but he wasn't short of money and his stake was pocket money to him.

I was a bit sceptical he was trying to increase the share price however in order to do a placing but I think the company was in too much trouble by then.

NEXT walking away spoke volumes to me I suspect Lord Wolfson took the view the company was unsaveable with all its shop rents and there would have to be some sort of CVA and then se if he could do a deal with administrators which is not that far off as to what is happening now.

But I am sorry if you or any other poster here thinks I am on here to say I told you so I am not like that we all make mistakes I have lost money myself over the years on a few companies which have gone bust so I know what it feels like.

What I did think was wrong was Teatrum being as vocal as he did and making sure the press run the story it encouraged investors to buy shares on a lot of potential upside but who knows what management fed him at the time.

I just hope there is some bidding going on to salvage something for shareholders.

Posted at 14/11/2022 15:33 by debsdowner
Tom Joul had 24 million shares in the company at one time they were worth tens of millions he will be competely sick at the current situation but if he wasn't prepared to dish up money then the company wans't profitable.

Https://www.joulesgroup.com/investors/shareholder-centre/key-shareholders/

Posted at 14/11/2022 13:01 by debsdowner
YM

Joules failed to move with the times update from Mail

Https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11424973/Fashion-chain-Joules-verge-administration.html

Continued Sales a red flag as YM says and regardless of Christmas Joules almost had a continual sale on when M&S had few sales.

So what you get is customers won't buy until prices get cut not a good way to conduct business and margins collapse.

It isn't the first time Joules has dont 50% and 70% sale and the company cannot make money with those discounts.

It is a sad state of affirs but predictable I warned potential investors not to buy.

Posted at 14/11/2022 11:33 by debsdowner
Next time investors who are intrerested in a retailer ask my advice I called Debenhams down at least 12 months before they hit the wall.
Posted at 14/11/2022 10:26 by debsdowner
Full story Guardian

Https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/14/joules-to-appoint-administrators-fashion-retailer-stores

I did warn on the last statement that the borrowings had risen you couldnt have had a bigger RED FLAG and shocked some investors kept buying there will be nothing left for shareholders ZILCH.

Barclays will want their money back and I also warned time and time again it was difficult to get finance in these markets.

Thicko car dealer thought he knew more than me LOL.

Posted at 07/11/2022 17:14 by guitars4stars
Agreed,Bought in today 1,624,730 shares.Looking forward to a re-rating once investors realise the background quality of investors & management here.All the best!
Posted at 09/10/2022 14:42 by debsdowner
harry-david

This isn't the case I was negative on Debenhams for years and the company went bust.

1data

Have already said the share price will probably bounce tomorrow what is negative about that ?

What I also think is someone got a whiff of an article comming up in the Mail sometimes yoo get a similar bounce in a share mag where the market makers get a whiff of the article before it is published. The market maker tend to mark up sharply before the buying starts then mark down when the buying slows. Market makers rely in psychology in trading.

All I am saying is the company has already warned on profits and already warned about debt, and unless the corner has turned investors take a large risk.

Now the guy who has invested 900K in Joules is taking a risk but it is small change to him.

Mike Ashley has done that numerous times he bought a shed load of Debenhams and lost more on put options. Ashley also lost a shed load in one of tbe banks cannot bring it to mind at the momebt could have been Halifax, but Ashley not a banker nor is the investor here a fashion guru.

I would have been more enthusiastic with Lord Wolfson building a stake then recommended people buy in.

But Lord Wolfson is far more canny that this guy who has increased his investment.

But good luck the share price will probably rise tomoorow and hopefully towards 20 pence.

But bear in mind there is no compelling reason to but at the moment the compaby has already warned of losses even before the economy worsens.

Posted at 15/9/2022 19:36 by debsdowner
Institutions selling out private investors taking the stock!

Who is right?

Well BlackRock played the right hand as I recall months ago after company made first alarm raise and profit warning.

Private investors tend to think they know best untill it's too late.

Posted at 08/8/2022 15:19 by debsdowner
hd, at first glance the deal looks too cheap but Joules needed help with cash-flow and they have a good stakeholder in Lord Wolfson who no doubt will have a lot of influence on the board. One would hope it would boost sales but it will take a little time the concern I would have is MARKS ditch third party sales but that isn't the B end of it all. Even NEXT have warned of trading going forward so I don't expect fireworks soon. The deal isn't for short term investors but if investors are prepared to wait they may have a multi bagger.
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