Innovaderma Share Discussion Threads

[milliecusto] 14/8/2018 08:12

Looks like a back test today

[doc robinson] 14/8/2018 07:58

Any sustained buying now will push this much higher with the large buyer in the background in my opinion.gla

[gregpeck7] 14/8/2018 07:50

Valuation to over 200p to continue today. Mkt cap is tiny and any whiff that they are going to exceed targets will see the lid come off well and truely here.

[teddy boy1] 13/8/2018 18:52

DOC -Agree with you completely. ! Up until this most recent announcement,if we had had this scale of sells compared with buys you could have GUARANTEED that the share price would finish much lower. The fact that it hasn,t heralds the advent of a newer, stronger stage in IDPs development. Combine this with the very large buys which we are seeing inspires me with much confidence that the company has really turned a corner and that there is much more to come.

I think the real reassurance which some people crave will come next month when the company spells out to everyone that it is really "on its way" Even ,then there will be those few who still need things spelt out in black and white . I am not convinced that such people should be investing in the stock market!

[ny boy] 13/8/2018 18:38

Nursery school must of run late today, the clown is back

[teddy boy1] 13/8/2018 18:36

MELF- Thats exactly what Lord Loads of Lolly said a few days ago and he has lost out very badly. In my humble opinion if a company has had problems in the past :as long as they do everything in their power to put things right to get back on course,then they should be given the benefit of the doubt! I just cannot see what more IDP could do to keep shareholders happy whilst at the same time moulding itself into a very successful company with a very bright future.What more do YOU think could be done to reassure nervous investors such as yourself?

[applegarthlse] 13/8/2018 18:00

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[doc robinson] 13/8/2018 17:58

Could sell 50 k at close at 1.503 MMs still have a appetite for the shares .

[applegarthlse] 13/8/2018 17:21

THIS BOARD IF FULL OF RAMPING PIGS!!!!!!!! I've enjoyed today watching the share price tumble! Last 3 days of trading last week saw this push higher but the momentum is going now with traders moving on. Like another poster has said the market doesn't know how to value this compost yet? Laughable post on LSE yesterday about 2.00/2.50p this week........lol... MUG MUPPET OR RAMPING PIG! I'd say ramping pig! This will retrace now over the coming days back to 1.23p which isn't bad considering it was around 1.10p for a while. IVE BEEN IN THIS GAME A LONG TIME NOW AND FED UP WITH RAMPING PIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get ahead of yourselves here as I'm keeping watch :D

[gleach23] 13/8/2018 17:14

I think we are misreading each other's messages rawnsley

IDP is such a new co that I don't believe the market has ever got to grips with an accurate valuation and may struggle for some time yet - it's not as if there is a multi year sales profile that it can rely on for its own forecasts, let alone analysts and the market.

400p was achieved because the market is irrational, whether it was based on forecasts not being missed or otherwise. I'm hoping for more of the same.

I haven't assumed investor confidence is at the same level. It has to have been much lower after the missed forecasts but to me that has presented an opportunity. I only made reference to the abnormally large trades of late which appear to be institutional buys. I'd rather there was II confidence than PI as II dealing properly re-rates the shares whereas PI dealing is just daily noise.

Overall I'm hoping that irrational exuberance returns so I can come out of some short term trades whilst I hold a longer term investment for as long as I believe in the developing story.

[doc robinson] 13/8/2018 16:58

Sells today appear to be 2x buys however the price closes blue. Allbodes well for tomorrow.

[muzmanoz] 13/8/2018 16:56

Haven't they just rolled the forecasts from the year just gone to this year? Would indicate to me that they hadn't got Any firm figures at the time of the rns and that they may have been waiting for the appointment of a CEO.

[boonboon] 13/8/2018 16:44

Sorry it wasn't at least it was in excess ofThe Company is still finalising budgets for 2019 and 2020, but expects FY19 revenues to be in excess of GBP14m with profit before tax in excess of GBP1.6m.

[melf] 13/8/2018 16:39

You make fair points rawnsley. When the market loses trust in a company that trust isn't regained easily. The company has to demonstrate that it can come up with the numbers now. I have a small position here and won't be increasing it until I can see some tangible proof that the company can deliver even if I have to pay a higher price for that security.

[boonboon] 13/8/2018 16:38

For what it's worth the fact that they said at least when giving the forecasts should mean they are confident that they've been cautious.

[doc robinson] 13/8/2018 14:24

Clearly a buyer out there soaking up all the sells.

[doc robinson] 13/8/2018 14:22

Able to sell 50000 shares online at 1.5 they certainly still want your shares for some reason?

[anony mous] 13/8/2018 14:18

Just quoted 1.60 to buy 20k

[gregpeck7] 13/8/2018 14:08

Will our buyer show up this afternoon?

[teddy boy1] 13/8/2018 13:57

RAWNSLEY- You are ,of course ,entitled to your opinion.

However,I would argue that this time last week,not many would have predicted that the IDP share price would today be standing at around 150p.Most would have cited reasons ,why it would not be!

What else can IDP do? It has put everything in place to ensure that their targets are met or even exceeded.

The general consensus of opinion is that IDPs latest targets are not too onerous and that they should be fairly easily achievable.

If there were things that IDP were failing to do I could understand your concern .

That is why, as far as I am concerned, IDP is now firing on all cylinders and doing everything possible to ensure that targets are met and that their shareholders see value in the share price and that they can look forward to a good return on their investment.

[rawnsley] 13/8/2018 13:35

I think 150p is fair value at the moment and I can't see it rising much higher on fundamentals, due to prior missed targets.

This share needs to continuously hit the deliverables it sets itself before we can start expecting PE greater than the current levels in my opinion. This may mean we've got at least another 9-12 months of suppressed share price, before confidence starts returning.

This is of course all based on the assumption we hit this year's sales and profit targets, which I don't think is guaranteed just yet, as there is significant growth in the forecast numbers, which shouldn't be ignored as a risk. We also don't know the sales split, how much was put in for Prolong, Roots, ST. If Prolong was expected to carry this year's growth and it hasn't taken off, the numbers may not be hit. We currently have no news on prolong sales.

[teddy boy1] 13/8/2018 13:11

Keep buying these shares,lads ! Don't allow the shorters to gain control.Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine. They have had it much too good for much too long ( up until now!)

The share price is still a snip even with the nice increase that we have had over the past couple of days.In my opinion ,there probably will not be another opportunity to accumulate shares at these bargain prices.FILL YOUR BOOTS!