Hochschild Mining Share Discussion Threads

[dt1010] 10/11/2016 15:51

I am free to express opinions

People have themselves to blame if they lose money

At least I do t pretend to be clever by sitting on the fence which is all you ever do on here and elsewhere

You clearly lack the courage of your own conviction

You always seem as if you're lacking in self confidence

It sounds like you need to worry more about your losses than those of strangers, juju ;)

[onedayrodders] 10/11/2016 15:49

Best not to try and work it out ... we have seen totally upside down reactions to events over the last few weeks.

Being in PM's can drive you stir crazy but not being in over the next few years is insanity.

(Quite like that last quote)

[juju44] 10/11/2016 15:46

Best kind to be . You dont lead peeps into losing money

[dt1010] 10/11/2016 15:43

Juju you are a provocative flip flopper

And an excellent hindsight trader lol

[juju44] 10/11/2016 15:39

Yep , too many rampers making it up

[spagnolia] 10/11/2016 15:29

Any main reason for the drop?

[dt1010] 10/11/2016 15:19

Agree golden.
No rush.
Timber!
Silver $25 in 2017? Yeah I reckon so.

[goldenshare888] 10/11/2016 15:14

Don't worry it is all bent and short term manipulation.

Allowing insiders to cover shorts bet on Clingon win probably.

December onwards could get very interesting and I maintain new highs for GOLD in 2017.

[onedayrodders] 10/11/2016 15:10

who would have thought it might have been better for Clinton to win !

[juju44] 10/11/2016 14:49

I try to guess where the Crimms are taking things and bet accordingly. Right now long DB and sitting on double my bet (cfd) . short silver at 1885 - we will see and good luck

[scottishfield] 10/11/2016 14:33

Yes, good triangle

[edjge2] 10/11/2016 13:42

Looks like a chart triangle, I think I know which way it will escape. Jump will be bigger if later.

[chipperfrd] 10/11/2016 13:41

gaaston,

Is this the one?

[goldenshare888] 10/11/2016 13:14

It will happen Lauders. :))

[lauders] 10/11/2016 12:57

Good to see HOC up a little since my last pre-result post when I said Vanguard were likely selling more. Shame we seem to have come off the boil again and some "weakness" has set-in. I was really expecting 300p by now on the Trump result, but alas even that target seems hard to breach let alone 400p or 500p. As some say perhaps we are waiting for delayed HOC breakout! I certainly hope so ;-)

[goldenshare888] 10/11/2016 12:37

Doon't make the mistake of thinking GOLD & SILVER don't go up if interest rates rise, like many on here seem to think!

There is plenty of evidence to show GOLD & SILVER rise in an environment of rising interest rates.

It is the REAL interest rate that is important not the headline interest rate figure.

It alludes many people and is how governments deflate their debts while debasing fiat currency. THE ULTIMATE PONZI SCHEME in my view.

Headline interest rate say 1% and real inflation 3.5% gives a negative REAL INTEREST RATE of minus 2.5%

Headline interest rates could rise 200% in above scenario and still be negative REAL INTEREST RATES!

GOLD can thrive when interest rates and inflation rates rise simultaneously, which is probably where we are heading!!!

GOLD will take out old c $1900 high next year I think.

[topicel] 10/11/2016 12:13

Voted your post up Maximoney as that seems a rational reason too. Personally I find banking collapse unlikely as just like a company when shares are badly priced after a calamity all they need do is change the rules.

In the case of say RBS do a ten-fold consolidation and most people forget it is actually worth 18p in 2008 terms and all those who Fred the Shred shafted and held shares at £5.50 know it. The same with debt, just reflate it away.

If it's coming we then get rising interest rates and who wants to hold gold or silver (except for the industrial use)? DT is right about the can kicking but maybe not being honest that the only solution will be the collapse of the European banks, and then, of course, international chaos.

Anglo American was a basket case in January and is know five times it's worth then. But there will be plenty more upset and volatility to move between PMs and financials successfully if you're brave. I just prefer to hold and pray!

Topicel

[maximoney1] 10/11/2016 11:21

To be fair juju, the $gold closing price on the 8th was $1275 and the high on the 9th was $1337 (so a $62 surge) although it wasn't followed through and quickly brought under control, however, had clinton got in and we had seen a $62 surge to the downside, that would have taken $gold outwith the bull trend and we could have been facing serious downside momentum in the PM's. I think TPTB will aim to go sideways around $1305 till end of year, but when final direction is confirmed i expect it to be very vigourous due to the length of consolidation.

[dt1010] 10/11/2016 11:16

Hahaha so true dilbert....what a hypocrite...so now he's saying a banking collapse WILL happen...juju why don't you grow up, stop flip flopping to cover yourself and try getting out more lol

[dilbert dogbreadth] 10/11/2016 11:10

and you have been invested for years so deep down you've thought the same otherwise you wouldn't be here.

[juju44] 10/11/2016 10:52

Some day it will fall but you guys have been predicting armageddon for years and like the original prediction , it never happens . All the guru predictions on gold surge with Trump victory proving to be the usual BS

[dt1010] 10/11/2016 10:49

Not confused at all.

European banking collapse is on the cards. Trump being elected changes nothing.

The collapse will come.

Gold and silver will continue to appreciate against fiat.

It's lacks any need for confusion.

The euro project is finished with. Next year's elections will prove that once and for all.

Did printing money since 2008 solve the west's debt problems?

Lol no. It kicked the can down the road.

Unless of course you ask juju ;)

[maximoney1] 10/11/2016 10:30

TPTB might be trying to keep everything 'going sideways' till Trump is firmly behind the wheel.

[pixi] 10/11/2016 10:21

It appears to me that massive government intervention prevented a big crash yesterday and gold was manipulated back down again following it's initial spike up first thing. The markets turned around very smartly following the spike down and finished up. So if you ask me, the American government was forced to keep the markets up because they are so heavily invested in it. But eventually reality will kick in, company profits are falling year after year and the market, when left to it's own devices, will always revert to the mean. I suspect this will happen after Trump becomes President so he will take the blame for the coming crash and not the central bankers.

I'm out and back in cash.