Hochschild Mining Share Discussion Threads

[edjge2] 14/8/2017 09:51

HOC usually surprises to the upside resultwise

[topicel] 14/8/2017 08:15

Mmmm, HOC and results, as Majorpain has pointed out we do need PM prices rising or like other occasions it will be sell on the news methinks DT, even stonkking results.

The saving grace is the debt ceiling is ready to take over from the NK dance to keep PM prices on the up which are the main driver in our overal valuation IMHO.

The combination is what we want to see, of course, of plenty of geopolitical and international tensions and US domestic data and trouble in D.C.... Then it really shouldn't matter on the micro level here what the company reports.

Topicel

[dt1010] 14/8/2017 08:03

True, you wonder whether it's worth putting in £10k into BTC just incase...
But that sort of money isn't worth it I don't think.

Interim results here on Wednesday will push HOC higher.

350-375p before any pull back thanks to a short term over bought gold. Gold cod see $1275-1260 on any pull back...won't last though and we'll see North of $1320 by end of 2017 ...Maybe:

[majorpain2] 14/8/2017 07:56

DT, time will show if it is the next big thing or a "greater fool" Ponzi. It could be $15000 or it could be $0.

[goldenshare888] 14/8/2017 07:55

& then perhaps Silver $1000 and BTC $1...

:))

Try and keep the faith, remember the BIG MONEY is made in the being right & sitting tight!

I feel pm's are a classic case...

:))

[dt1010] 13/8/2017 21:39

You wonder how high BTC will by the time AG gets to $35.... $15000?....

[goldenshare888] 13/8/2017 20:53

DT, $35 Silver may look cheap one day!

In for the long game here:))

[stevea171] 13/8/2017 16:49

"The latest moves this weekend in the crypto world suggest gold will open well north of $1300 tonight."

Not so long ago (April) Bitcoin overtook the gold price for the first time ever when gold was around $1260. Now Bitcoin is $4000 and gold is still only $1288. This is a measure of the straight jacket the cartel has placed gold and silver in so that they can barely move whilst for alternative crypto currencies the sky's the limit.

You would think that something has to give soon ....

Bitcoin Blows Through $4000 As Asian Demand Soars
Aug 13, 2017

While many of the largest cryptocurrencies are fading modestly this morning, Bitcoin is holding on to dramatic gains which saw the largest virtual currency spike to as high as $4190 as Yen, Yuan, and Won trading activity dominated volumes.

Bitcoin’s solid performance in early August reflected that of gold’s amidst the selloff in stocks and bonds around the world due to the growing apprehensions over North Korea’s nuclear threat.

And the latest moves this weekend in the crypto world suggest gold will open well north of $1300 tonight.

[stevea171] 13/8/2017 10:52

Any NK attack is more likely to be on SK than Guam, the US mainland or Japan. The US has many bases and 35,000 troops in SK which would be a lot easier targets than Guam or San Francisco.
The U.S. has some 35,000 personnel at 83 sites in South Korea in an alliance stemming from the 1950-53 Korean war.

North Korea Says Army Is "On Standby Waiting For An Order Of Attack"

North Korea's threat to lob four missiles toward Guam in mid-August coincides with longstanding plans by the U.S. and South Korea to mount annual large-scale sea, land and air exercises that have traditionally rankled Pyongyang.

In the past, North Korea has responded to the annual exercises by carrying out missile launches or live-fire artillery drills, calling the joint exercises — which often include mock landings between U.S. Marines and South Korean troops — a rehearsal for war.

The annual military event, named Ulchi-Freedom Guardian this year, is set for Aug. 21-31 and will go ahead as planned, South Korean officials said Friday, The Guardian reported. The annual exercises also include South Korean civilian emergency drills.

[stevea171] 13/8/2017 10:37

South Korean Credit Risk Spikes Above China's As Kim Chooses "Path Of No Return"
Aug 12, 2017.

As a North Korea war potential approaches, with the regime said to have attack ready nuclear missiles, Daiwa analysts Kevin Lai and Olivia Xai note the awkward position the US military and diplomatic corps finds itself.

“It seems the US has miscalculated the possibility and time needed for North Korea to make a program deliverable,” they wrote, and there is a sense the point of no return is passing.

“The window for the US to ‘denuclearise’ the North has almost shut.”

Escalating tensions over North Korea have also sent the dollar surging against the won to test a critical downtrend line resistance in a triangle formation.

“Financial markets aren’t good at thinking about geopolitical risks,” the Daiwa report noted. “If this crisis escalates further, markets could well find themselves in a state of shock.”

[topicel] 13/8/2017 10:07

AAL gained 500% last year Lauders. People forget it was nearly going bust according to many and the share price was £2.

High had been £50? So yep, diamonds but company specific stuff, just like with HOC.

The question is when is our return to form over? Many here, including me, believe we will rise above old highs, just a matter of time. I am not so sure about AAL with so many non-PM irons in fires.

Topicel

[lauders] 13/8/2017 01:25

Is this correct though DT1010:

As I read posts across the internet, I see utter disgust with the metals complex. It seems this sideways action in 2017 has worn investors out. I have seen many cash in their chips in utter disgust over the last few months. Yet, all we have been doing in 2017 is moving sideways, while maintaining over support.

This is simply how the market works. Before you are able to see any major rally, most in the market have to either be out of the market or positioned the wrong way. Just consider where all the money has to come from that chases a 3rd wave into a parabolic rally. And, based on what I am reading out in the blog-o-sphere, along with the BPGDM being down in the 25 region, it certainly seems the market is doing its job of pushing investors out.

The HOC share price has increased 60.5% this year. FRES has increased 29.5%, RRS 19.5%, GLEN 19% and AAL 12.4%. I know the latter has diamonds and other commodities too. There are also others who have not fared that well, but still the above gains do not paint the scenario expressed by the author do they?

[stevea171] 12/8/2017 13:40

cpap. No warrants.

If you want leverage in silver generally there is LSIL but this is highly volatile!

[cpap man] 12/8/2017 12:27

Does any one know if HOC have any tradable warrants?

[drago] 12/8/2017 11:04

mentioned in the wee hours this morning on radio 4.
s koreans are buying gold and ready meals.
and now everyone has to participate in the emergency drills
god help them

[stevea171] 12/8/2017 10:29

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[lauders] 12/8/2017 01:06

Thanks DT1010. An interesting piece but written by Zeal who of course have to promote gold so are probably bullish all the time LOL. Still I hope the "bottom line" is correct. We will find out next week when it comes to HOC.

The bottom line is gold stocks look like a coiled spring today despite the extreme bearishness plaguing them. Following its long drift so far this year, this sector is ready to stage a massive breakout surge in the coming months. Technically gold stocks’ triangle consolidation has nearly converged, guaranteeing an imminent breakout. But far more bullish are gold stocks’ deeply-undervalued fundamentals relative to gold.

Gold-mining profits are heavily dependent on prevailing gold prices. And with this industry’s costs way under gold’s current levels, the gold miners are already earning hefty profits today. Sooner or later their stock prices must reflect fundamental reality. That mean-reversion process is already underway, with gold stocks’ early-autumn-rally gains increasingly outpacing gold’s. Their upside leverage should only accelerate.

On the other side of the coin (gold or silver of course!):

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[dt1010] 11/8/2017 21:15

This says it all:

[edjge2] 11/8/2017 21:15

weekend words and australian/asian trading may have us waking up to 1300 plus. Can't see Trump resisting to open his mouth with NK on a swift counter. Vane v vanity. HOC likely to react even if goldies subdued. FR. looks screwed.

[fieldhouse] 11/8/2017 15:35

Looking good stevea.
Every cloud has a silver lineing !!!.
Fundamentals will rule eventually.Getting a lot nearer.
Have a good weekend all

[goldenshare888] 11/8/2017 15:15

I reckon we have seen the summer doldrum low for pm miners and we should see some good action going forwards!

Just need $1300 GOLD now to garner some interest from those who have shunned the sector.

:))

[topicel] 11/8/2017 15:13

Voted up and Amen to that last post. The duration of each knock back has mostly been less and less in recent occasions with a finger in the dam kind of feel about them...

No doubt this remains in a longterm uptrend and with all outside signs agreeing it has to be one of those buy the dips - as GS did so well earlier.

Topicel