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HOC Hochschild Mining Plc

127.40
0.80 (0.63%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Hochschild Mining Plc LSE:HOC London Ordinary Share GB00B1FW5029 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.80 0.63% 127.40 127.60 128.70 129.40 125.30 126.50 1,405,637 16:35:05
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Silver Ores 735.64M 2.96M 0.0058 221.03 659.54M
Hochschild Mining Plc is listed in the Silver Ores sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker HOC. The last closing price for Hochschild Mining was 126.60p. Over the last year, Hochschild Mining shares have traded in a share price range of 67.50p to 129.40p.

Hochschild Mining currently has 514,458,432 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Hochschild Mining is £659.54 million. Hochschild Mining has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 221.03.

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/8/2017
10:05
shakey, it popped out before the last run up so not inconceivable that momentum this morning has carried it beyond and it will correct to the channel again. I would be quite surprised if it didn't really.
pediment
16/8/2017
09:56
Pediment, that's the channel I have been working with too. It's been holding true for a long time now.
shakeypremis
16/8/2017
09:54
As I thought - no substance... I may well look to buy a few for a trade but I believe the bottom is far from in just yet
supercity
16/8/2017
09:36
And just bought more again. Another £9k worth of frankly good quality good value stock.

Thank you very much :)))

dt1010
16/8/2017
09:19
It's nice to see a bottom feeder start posting on here, attracted by the large drop, welcome on board.

I suggest all bottom feeders listen at 2.30pm.

And DYOR. Why should I make it easy for you? I've been here since 70p.

Just buy the share Supercity, it's cheap now and is unlikely to get much cheaper IMO as I suspect silver will move up again very soon.

You need to go off and do your own research rather than lazily expecting others to hand the facts to you on a plate on a BB.

As a clue to value the PE drops to 12 here next year ;)

Good luck.

dt1010
16/8/2017
09:11
SteveThe reason I used dollars is because the results are reported in dollars - as for the director then that clears it up...didn't realize he had such a large holdingDT1010By posting constantly the drop is overdone and biting heads off doesn't exactly do anything to bolster your argument - please explain on current and future earnings what warrants such a high market capI am not having a go just get bored with the mindless ramblings I constantly see when a share drops If (for example) you say in 1-2 years they will be debt free and hitting profits of £200m + then I would agree they could be worth a lot more (but not before the obvious sell off within or outside the current chart uptrend)
supercity
16/8/2017
09:04
Look at the chart.

For someone who says he's been doing this for 20 years....you sound remarkably naive.

How much have you got in this?

dt1010
16/8/2017
09:03
Supercity.
Market Cap: £1.4 billion unless you are a US investor.

Eduardo Hochschild is Chairman of the company, not CEO. He had a 54% stake now reduced to 51%. He supported the company when it suffered hard times a few years ago by taking up his entitlements when the company raised funds to the tune of 10's of millions of dollars to maintain his stake at 54%. When the crisis was over, confirmed by the FY results in March he took his money back, reducing his stake but still worth £700 million today.

stevea171
16/8/2017
09:02
Whoever it was that said shares trading is a zig zag game was proved correct this morning. And it's still zig zagging downwards!!!
charles clore
16/8/2017
09:00
For anyone interested in Bullioncoin there has been a rebuttal of the ABX hatchet job which I posted last night, on the TF Metals website, apparently by David Gibson of Goldvu. If you don't want to hear any more let me know and I will desist from further posts.
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Update from BullionCoin

Well, well, well...

It seems that not all is what it seems.

It's 1:20 in the morning in Cyprus and I've just finished a really nice one hour and 20 minute phone call with the co-founder of BullionCoin, Thomas Koenye (I was up late working due to BullionCoin's launch, so happy to take his call).

When I read the ABX announcement, before my chat with Thomas, there were a few points that struck me as odd about what was said and speaking with Thomas clarified several areas and brought to light some issues within ABX.

It seems that ABX's statement and points are generally not true and could have been an attempt to smear BullionCoin in an unprofessional manner. BullionCoin have fully documented all correspondence to back up their version of events and discussions with ABX.

BullionCoin were already looking at another provider which already does what ABX do in the provision of wholeale allocated precious metals outside the banking system, but on a much larger scale. It looks as though ABX issued a statement out of spite rather than based on true professional assessment.

ABX's statement has just backed themselves into a corner and they now need to do a lot of justification relating to it with specifics or they are not going to look good out of this at all.

These are the following points that caught my attention before speaking to Thomas of BullionCoin:

1) unallocated vs allocated

ABX used to offer electronic vault warrants (eVWs) to clients whereby they would get their bar serial numbers issued to them - they could visit the vault & inspect their specific bars. ABX withdrew that facility last year.

Since the withdrawal of eVWs, clients holding pm at ABX are also technically just creditors having a claim on the vaulted bullion - they can't point at any specific bar and say "that's mine". The ABX vaulted metal is technically only "allocated" on ABX's own books.

Unallocated is when the metal was never bought in the first place and is owed to you. That is how banks operate.

Allocated is when the metal exists in a 1:1 match with the companies client's booked accounts.

Segregated is when the serial numbers are issued and physically separate from the generic allocated pile of metal.

There is no difference between the way ABX and BullionCoin do it which is allocated.

So I have no idea what ABX were going on about. ABX were the only source of metals for BullionCoin which were to be directly bought from ABX's market.

If all the the metal is sourced via ABX, how could ABX state it's unallocated. They sold & delivered physical, not an unallocated promise.

So something didn't stack up with point 1.

2) BullionCoin have been using 30 highly experience software developers in the design of the system. I was a little surprised that ABX doesn't consider their skills in security of a high enough standard when Thomas Coughlin of ABX admitted to me face to face that the first few versions of MetalDesk were poorly written by what seemed to be a bunch of school kids.

So again seemed a bit odd to me.

3) Thomas of BullionCoin said he wasn't aware of any law suit or legal issue against BullionCoin.

The only place mentioned about possible IP infringement was in a GoldMoney community forum. I read that thead about 3 weeks ago and queried it with Thomas back then. Then, same as now, Thomas stated that there is no IP infringement. He has has several patent lawyers review GoldMoney's patents and even with the slightest tweaks, it was easily sidestepped.

So a non-issue. ABX are going to have to clarify what they mentioned here - if it turns out to be hearsay based on something they read in a forum, then they are going to look a bit daft.

4) Vaulting

This one was a bit odd.

BullionCoin's acceptance of deposits is pretty strict. It'll only take direct deposits into the vault from other secure providers like GoldMoney, Perth Mint, GoldCore etc - and even then they must have a certificate and depending upon their storage T&Cs, they will ask for an audit inspection prior to authorising the collection from those vaults.

Any doubt, then it needs to go via a refinery.

So really not sure about what ABX meant. Again they need to be specific and clarify what they stated.

The rest of the points - no idea.

I'll keep you posted on things behind the scenes.

All the best,

David

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obbig60
16/8/2017
08:57
GUYS AOR ABOUT TO GO AGAIN
falia
16/8/2017
08:48
Supercity...roger walters...is that you? ;)

Juju...you don't call a 330p to 265p drop bloody?

This is a strong buy now and price action IMO will prove it.

But hey, by sitting on the fence, fully loaded anyway, you're covered...free brim bulletin board derision...which could otherwise bruise your little ego ;)

dt1010
16/8/2017
08:43
HOC was strongest of PMs over last month now ridiculous valuation, down 10% and diving deeper, maybe bouncing on 270!
JUJU more pain on the way if 1270 broken and NK shuts up.

edjge2
16/8/2017
08:43
Could be more pain to come. I may buy when there is blood on the street
juju44
16/8/2017
08:40
The chart seems to suggest the share is still within its uptrend unless it breaks below 250-260pInterested to hear constructive comments on the $2b market cap in relation to the figures released today and how much upside people actually think there is in the short term hereLooks like an excellent trading share but don't like the fact the CEO sold so many back in JuneNot deramping before anyone bites my head off - genuinely interested in what warrants such a market cap and can see it falling further over the coming days
supercity
16/8/2017
08:28
Live conference call and audio broadcast at 2.30pm today for analysts and investors.

'The company's increased investment in exploration- led growth as well as the cancellation of the Patagonian port benefit in late 2016 and a fully-implemented backfill process at Immaculada led to an increase in overall costs with adjusted EBITDA at the half year of $136m (H1 2016 $170m).
Pre exceptional EPS was $0.03 whilst an impairment of $26m at Atcata was offset by a reversal of $32m at Pallancata and therefore post exceptional earnings per share of $0.05.

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dt1010
16/8/2017
08:26
I am looking for 260-270p here, missed my change earlier at 267p-ish as I was on the train. If this obeys the chart it will make it to around that range. There's every chance it won't obey this time but I am ready if it does.
shakeypremis
16/8/2017
08:18
No need to patronise anyone major. I'm not in love lol. I am holding for far high prices off the back off reducing debt and increasing silver prices.
And I've been here since 70p originally.
So don't fret yourself ;)
Only amateurs panic and I am super calm. Can afford to be. Can you? ;)

dt1010
16/8/2017
08:14
Yes you can DT, falling in love with a share is not the only or best way to make money. Its also the way to lose a lot of money as I found out not too long ago, I didn't miss the signs this time!
majorpain2
16/8/2017
08:08
The chart will pull in new buyers along with a resurgent silver price, this will soon be back to 336p area. It's a zig zag journey after all.

Oh to have sold the lot at 330p+ and bought back in at 280p lol

Can't think like that though!

dt1010
16/8/2017
08:01
Back up we go ;)

Pathetic over reaction granting excellent access to great prices for loyal investors...

dt1010
16/8/2017
08:00
295p finish here I reckon and back over 300p by Friday!!

:)))

goldenshare888
16/8/2017
07:58
GUYS AOR FLYING, ONE THOSE 500% RISERS COMING UP
falia
16/8/2017
07:54
Some of those dumping buying back in now.

The results not exactly hero to zero ....

stevea171
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