Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 17/11/2022 15:34

Says the ramper who just reposted his exact same irrelevant post! Yet another feeble attempt at deflecting from the rampers placebo scam being exposed! Should we call you mike rampman fried? ROFLMAO

[lbo] 17/11/2022 13:02

All Reckitt have to do is start marketing their current class 2 medical device lubricants/arousal gels as ‘clinically proven’ placebo treatments for Erectile dysfunction. No need for any further studies and the claim can be substantiated to the FDA and FTC as its not misleading as unlike MED3000 it admits its a placebo but it’s still ‘clinically proven’ ‘it works’ LOL






In one study, participants were split into three groups. The first group was told they would receive a treatment for erectile dysfunction, the second group was told they would receive either a placebo or an actual treatment, and the third group was told they would receive a placebo.

All three groups were, in fact, given placebo starch tablets, but the erectile dysfunction in all three groups improved significantly without any differences between the three groups.

[lbo] 16/11/2022 18:45

Med3000 is just a medical device that has applied for medical device registration via the De Novo pathway exploiting the ‘least burdensome’ route. It will not be approved by the FDA to claim anything.



Devices are subject to weaker standards than drugs because they are regulated under a different law. The Medical Device Amendments of 1976 was intended to encourage innovation while allowing for a range of review standards based on risk, according to legal expert Richard A. Merrill. An array of corporate lobbying has since prompted Congress to ease regulations and make it easier for devices to get the FDA OK

Journalists need to scrutinize the claims.
Journalists have a responsibility to report this lack of evidence, but they often dont. Investigative journalist Jeanne Lenzer, who wrote a book about the under-regulated medical device industry, says more dogged reporting is needed: We really dont know what we are getting with many of these devices

Ninety-nine percent of devices never have to provide clinical data, thanks in part to the 2002 Medical Devices User Fee Act, which requires the FDA to use the least burdensome route

For the few devices subject to a scientific review, the quality standards are flimsy. Randomized controlled trials, the gold standard, are infrequent. Most studies are unblinded, and thus prone to bias. The FDA settles for loosely defined reasonable assurance that a device is safe and effective, versus its higher standard of substantial evidence for drugs, which require studies with comparison groups that didnt receive the same treatment. Thus, data that would never be sufficient to support the approval of a drug can result in the approval of a device used to treat the same condition, potentially diverting patients from effective drugs to less-effective devices.

[lbo] 16/11/2022 18:26

And how many times have you repeatedly posted the same misleading post. Claiming Oral PDE5i drugs which are the proven safe and effective first line therapy for ED is supposedly the main competitor to just a medical device. Which has never proven any effect in any adequately controlled study beyond a placebo!? Its not even in the same class. Unlike other class 2 medical device lubricants/arousal gels which are in the same class and can replicate all the effects of Med3000. You have also deliberately misrepresented the side effects and risks of the recommended first line therapy which has many years of objective data in millions of users supporting why it is still the recommended first line therapy. Unlike Med3000 which has no non deficient data supporting its efficacy and very little safety data only in a very few users.



A Viagra study also showed using a placebo was also just as likely to harm you. It compared some 4,500 patients taking the drug to about 3,100 on placebo. So based on that study Med3000 even as a placebo is just as likely to harm you as viagra.



‘It’s all in the American Urological Association [AUA] guidelines’

˜The therapies have not been validated’

˜I recommend what we have as standard of care, which includes pills, injections, penile prosthesis, and vacuum devices that we know work. Other therapies have not been included in the standard of care yet’

The first line therapy recommended in the General practice guidelines on ED is oral PDE5I drugs. Which would be based on all the available objective evidence. It would not be based solely on a rampers subjective and unqualified personal view. Or if a person just own shares in a company with a placebo gel alternative and who may have a vested interest and biased opinion.



First-line therapy

For most men with ongoing confirmed ED, first-line treatment will be a phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitor (PDE5I).



Phosphodiesterase 5 (PDE5) inhibitors (sildenafil, tadalafil, vardenafil) are recommended as first-line therapy. With established safety profiles, these drugs are well tolerated and effective

GPC prescribing lead Dr Andrew Green:

'There is no doubt that sildenafil is a safe and effective drug’

[mikethebike4] 16/11/2022 18:01

LBO

You accusing others of repetition !!! - when you are the ultimate repetitive de-ramper

- takes the biscuit

[lbo] 16/11/2022 12:57

The only repetition is the ramps coming from the rampers like you trying to scam others into buying shares in a placebo! You have posted hundreds of times the same misleading post misrepresenting what is agreed by the experts in Urology to be a proven effective and safe first line therapy in ED. Unlike Med3000 which as the SMSNA said is too good to be true and referred to it as a snake oil.

[lbo] 16/11/2022 10:01

I wonder how many of the rampers are regulars in the Bahamas? Seems to be a place where one or two scams may have been run from! LOL


mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 14:35:10 - 4072 of 11141

Having had similar waffling, 'smoke-screen' answers from Mr Barder over the years which have turned out to end in exactly nothing I am loathe to give any credence to virtually everything he says

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:58:28 - 4091 of 11141

Company is massively over valued if you go by 'concrete' results !

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141

I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.
I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about Mr Barder (our CEO since 2001) and to sale away into the sunset grasping 5 times as many £s in my fist as I paid for the shares
Unfortunately for people like J7J, Mr Barder has been through this advisors process before - with CSD500 - and look where we've got in 17 years - sales of the product did not even equal the money we paid him to be our CEO for 2017 !

mikethebike4 - 06 Dec 2017 - 10:32:27 - 3468 of 10591

"A couple of decent deals and will be back off to the races."
Do you have any idea of how long shareholders have been using these words

mikethebike4 - 23 Mar 2017 - 09:52:33 - 2560 of 10591

As someone who has been invested for many years and who attended an AGM years ago and complained to Barder about the very slow progress, I am very frustrated.
All the time the Board are drawing good salaries off the backs of shareholders money they have very little incentive to get off their backsides and get 'selling' - thats what running a company is all about at the end of the day!

mikethebike4 - 24 Feb 2020 - 09:11:58 - 7290 of 9713

why should it be any different this time when you've still got the same useless lot running the show

mikethebike4 - 07 Jan 2019 - 11:22:52 - 4692 of 9641

I repeat I very much hope you are right - no one would be happier than me if you are - however I stupidly (in hindsight) bought in when everything looked really rosy - we were told there were loads of 'distributors' all 'champing at the bit to get selling a wonderful industry disruptive product (which it still is incidentally) once the 2 year shelf-life problem was fixed. This was despite the fact that the Holland/Belgium distributor was quite happy and successful selling them with the original 18 months shelf-life
And where are we now years later - one tiny distributor from which Futura receives a total sales income only just about covering Mr Barders employment remuneration
I just hope this MED/TPR situation is not just a repeat of CSD. As to why I don't just sell up, well my shareholding is worth such a tiny proportion of what I paid for it I might just as well hang on in the hope that new shareholders getting in now are luckier than I was and I can get some of my money back - I think what we need is Mr Barders retirement - that should give the share price a kick

[mikethebike4] 16/11/2022 08:57

repeating yourself yet again lbo
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[mikethebike4] 15/11/2022 15:41

Come on LBO you are taking up 9/10th of this thread you must be in an absolutely desperate situation - probably lubed up to the eyeballs

Come on Lbo let's have another lot of mis-information you know you can do it !!

But just in case :-

Our main competitor - the little blue pill - has these problems

We all know what comes with Viagra don't we ?

Viagra causes unwanted side effects.

They may include:

sensitivity to light
muscle aches
heartburn
nose bleeding
flushed skin
problems falling asleep
tingling in the arms, feet, legs, or hands
numbness in the arms, feet, legs, or hands
headache
diarrhea
heartburn
trouble differentiating between colors like blue and green
seeing a blue tinge on things

Viagra may also cause serious side effects that require immediate medical attention. Symptoms may include:

chest pain
fainting
blurred vision
severe, sudden loss of vision
ringing in ears
sudden loss of or decrease in hearing
dizziness
rash
burning during urination
itching during urination
shortness of breath that worsens
an erection that lasts longer than 4 hours and may be painful

Who would risk it - obviously LBO does - he's dead keen

[lbo] 15/11/2022 11:59

False. In the real world everyone who is not a ramper with an obvious vested internet or duped by the rampers. Will comprehend that any cooling medical device lubricant/arousal gel can replicate all the same effects in the deficient Med3000 tests of rubbing, cooling sensation and placebo effect!

Even go back to David Ralphs comment about MED2005 in this chat in Feb 2019 before Med2005 failed in its Phase 3 drug trial and their hand was forced to go down the route of getting the placebo gel approved as a Medical device.

Go to 6 min 45sec in and you will hear him say many couples use lubrication and its not too much different from that. But he could say that with MED2005 as it still contained GTN and had not yet failed so it was different. But now MED3000 with no drug is just rubbing on a cooling lubricant/arousal gel made just of alcohol, water and glycol





GSK also knew it was just a lubricant having placebo effects all along. Even before it failed phase 3. And now with the GTN ‘penile enhancer’ action removed after the phase 3 failure of Med2005/2002. Med3000 is nothing more then a lubricant with placebo effects when users are led to believe ‘it works’ to treat ED.



No Goopy ED Gel in GSKs Futura




After Phase III Failure, UK Firm Pushes Placebo to Treat Erectile Dysfunction

[mikethebike4] 15/11/2022 11:55

Move into the real world LBO

Our competitor is the little blue pill NOT some lube you seem impressed by !

[lbo] 14/11/2022 15:49

The only misinformation is from the rampers as the main competitor is just any similar class 2 medical device lubricants/arousal gels which can replicate all the same effects including placebo as Med3000. And yes even placebos like Med3000 have side effects. In FM71 Med3000 caused headaches, nausea and penile burning.



A Viagra study also showed using a placebo was also just as likely to harm you. It compared some 4,500 patients taking the drug to about 3,100 on placebo. So based on that study Med3000 even as a placebo is just as likely to harm you as viagra.



A new review of data from 250,726 trial participants has found that 1 in 20 people who took placebos in trials dropped out because of serious adverse events (side effects). Almost half of the participants reported less serious adverse events. The adverse events ranged from abdominal pain and anorexia to burning, chest pain, fatigue, and even death.

This all proves there is placebo effects and nocebo effects with placebos in ED including the placebo Med3000 medical device gel!



Expectation and previous experience are both well established key mediators of placebo and nocebo effects.

[mikethebike4] 14/11/2022 15:48

Come on mis-information king

sleep on this :-

Our main competitor - the little blue pill - has these problems

We all know what comes with Viagra don't we ?

'Viagra may cause some unwanted side effects

which may include:

sensitivity to light
muscle aches
heartburn
nose bleeding
flushed skin
problems falling asleep
tingling in the arms, feet, legs, or hands
numbness in the arms, feet, legs, or hands
headache
diarrhea
heartburn
trouble differentiating between colors like blue and green
seeing a blue tinge on things

Viagra may also cause serious side effects that require immediate medical attention. Symptoms may include:

chest pain
fainting
blurred vision
severe, sudden loss of vision
ringing in ears
sudden loss of or decrease in hearing
dizziness
rash
burning during urination
itching during urination
shortness of breath that worsens
an erection that lasts longer than 4 hours and may be painful

Who would risk it - obviously Mr LBO does - he's dead keen

[lbo] 14/11/2022 13:17

Really Joe!? LOLJoeStalin - 30 Sep 2019 - 10:07:37 - 5937 of 10774FUTURA a winner for 2015 - says it all!JoeStalin - 18 Jul 2018 - 09:00:46 - 4354 of 10775'jam tomorrow' is a very easy promise to make.JoeStalin - 22 Jun 2018 - 14:12:24 - 4288 of 10775What's another year after all?At FUM, time is measured in decades.JoeStalin - 25 Apr 2018 - 16:07:34 - 4147 of 10775There seems to be an unlimited number of ways of saying "Jam tomorrow".JoeStalin - 21 Mar 2018 - 13:50:44 - 3985 of 10775A lifestyle company, but not for the shareholders.

[joestalin] 14/11/2022 13:02

Nutter boy still at it?

Seek help!