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[the graftman] 15/7/2011 22:07

Great stuff ABC , i hope you don't mind but posted two of the above on IPM thread ,, irish bank ,, we the shareholders are trying to stop Irish government forcing a not need 4 billion re-cap so the above posts are spot on as too what is happening.
ABC ,, i'm getting hooked on your thread and the contents, how long you been looking at these certain groups/commitee's and secret societies ??

I was watching on BBC2 (THE TUDORS) last night there was a bit where the Pope of the time ,had a secret order, soldiers of christ , in the programme he (pope) recruited a english catholic (against Henry )because of his move from the church , he was sent back to England to kill Henry , i wonder if this Order is still active , could it be they who shot Kennedy ?? i know some say it was CIA as he was seen as a danger to the health and direction he wanted to take the USA .

[abc125] 15/7/2011 20:52

What was Operation Northwood?

Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[2] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

[abc125] 15/7/2011 19:49

"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing."

William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England in 1694, then a privately owned bank.


"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

[abc125] 15/7/2011 19:42

The human species, according to the best theory I can form of it, is composed of two distinct races, the men who borrow, and the men who lend.- Charles Lab, Essays of Elia, 1833


Milton Friedman:

"The power to determine the quantity of money... is too important, too pervasive, to be exercised by a few people, however public-spirited, if there is any feasible alternative. There is no need for such arbitrary power... Any system which gives so much power and so much discretion to a few men, [so] that mistakes - excusable or not - can have such far reaching effects, is a bad system. It is a bad system to believers in freedom just because it gives a few men such power without any effective check by the body politic - this is the key political argument against an independent central bank."

[the graftman] 13/7/2011 20:51

ABC125 , from the committee 300 you led to Roundtable , is that the same off shoot of the masons ?? . We have a roundtable where i live , they are the local business men from the area.
I've never really looked at the full system and their links , another thing i'd like to mention is the Israli secret inteligents mossat . With the US being involved i'd imagine the Israli's are too.
Will work my way from futher back in your thread ,,interesting stuff.

[abc125] 12/7/2011 22:32

That map only goes back to the start of the Opium Wars. I've briefly come across the knights templar but i did not know it was also called the owl society - at bohemian grove they burn a big owl i think, so its probably linked. The owl is on a $ bill and is linked to the illuminati ('wise owl' lol).

Cheers, I will look into it.

[the graftman] 12/7/2011 20:15

abc125





The owl society is missing from your map , these are the modern day Knight Templar , that was the founders of the system you are posting about ,, they where the some of the most powerful people in the middle ages throughout Europe , it all stems from the crusades and Richard the lionheart.
The Owl Society meet in the USA and they come from all over the world , what is your take on the Qwl Society abc125

[abc125] 12/7/2011 19:54

Michael Hudson Research Professor at the University of Missouri, explained in 2008:

You have to realize that what they're (bankers) trying to do is to roll back the Enlightenment, roll back the moral philosophy and social values of classical political economy and its culmination in Progressive Era legislation, as well as the New Deal institutions. They're not trying to make the economy more equal, and they're not trying to share power. Their greed is (as Aristotle noted) infinite. So what you find to be a violation of traditional values is a re-assertion of pre-industrial, feudal values. The economy is being set back on the road to debt peonage. The Road to Serfdom is not government sponsorship of economic progress and rising living standards, it's the dismantling of government, the dissolution of regulatory agencies, to create a new feudal-type elite.

[abc125] 12/7/2011 12:46

Things To Come - H G Wells and the Open Conspiracy #1

[abc125] 12/7/2011 12:24

Former British MI6 Intelligence Officer Dr. John Coleman Breaks Down The Committee of 300 on Alex Jones Tv 1/4 :

[abc125] 12/7/2011 11:45

This 2hr film exposes who the real drug dealers are :

American Drug War: The Last White Hope: Pre Release Cut:

[abc125] 12/7/2011 11:36

Mere coincidence?:

China & The Opium Wars in the 19th Century (1800s) (8m) :


The Post-9/11 Afghan opium explosion :

[jon827] 09/7/2011 22:40

sussed it....teh answer is.............. GOLD

[jon827] 09/7/2011 22:09

I shell ponder this new wisdom you have just presented to me whist drinking another can of Stella

[traderabc] 09/7/2011 21:59

Here's the end game, all game for that matter.

[abc125] 09/7/2011 21:40

Future historians will look back at the 18th,19th and 20th centuries, as the Modern Dark Ages IMHO. A period of endless wars,famine, death and destruction. The start of this dark period dates backs from 1694 and the creation of the bank of england.

The good news is that we're due a new reformation and enlightenment. We're lucky to live through this. It only happens once every 500 or 1000 years. Society will come out of it the other side elevated, in terms of culture, politics,technology and so on.

[jon827] 09/7/2011 21:37

Ok, Ok here's teh real end game

we print more munie ;)

[traderabc] 09/7/2011 21:34

we all live happy ever after :)




Of course, we return to where we came from.

[jon827] 09/7/2011 21:14

What's the END game?...

we all live happy ever after :)

[abc125] 09/7/2011 21:12

Ruling elites have long had an interest in drug dealing (where's there's muck there's brass etc) which is illustrated by The Opium Wars of the 19th century. Do old habits die hard?