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Eden Research Plc LSE:EDEN London Ordinary Share GB0001646941 ORD 1P
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  -0.25 -3.33% 7.25 7.00 7.50 7.50 7.25 7.50 42,925 11:57:03
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07/5/2019
09:27
Wan, Sorry to be thick: Bayer 'playing hard ball' in what sense? You're suggesting these are deliberate delays, used as bargaining chips. To what end?
brucie5
07/5/2019
08:28
Brucie...I continue to not hold my breath with regard to Bayer! Strictly in my opinion only, if we do not get further evidence/announcement in the interim, the impending launch of head lice product in September might be instructive! Clearly the CEO did not sign the original deal with Bayer, but he is stuck with it and Bayer has exclusivity......however, in terms of the animal health products, Eden's next-generation encapsulation technology might enable Eden to move on with another partner/distributor, or maybe it could get Bayer moving forward 'proper' on the animal health products.....or even agreeing to a much wider deal! As it stands though, my preference is with those partners that have 'effectively' demonstrated that they have got on with the job, Sipcam and Eastman. Sustaine is almost certainly of interest beyond Sipcam and Eastman (Eden has said as much) and validation of Sustaine is gaining momentum (and escape velocity from Bayer?). So, if Bayer are playing hard ball (which is my 'guess'), then they might have a harder fight on their hands than they envisaged/bargained for!
wan
06/5/2019
18:29
Good points, chrischas. My assumption is that well established partners on the ground are doing the door to door. Hence Mevalone sales this far, and Cedroz early doors emergency clearance in Italy.
brucie5
06/5/2019
17:04
Pesticides, poisoning and the politics of agrichemicals between Europe and Brazil Brazil is one of the most important suppliers of foods, grains and biofuels to the European market. European firms are among those behind the record levels of hazardous use of pesticides in Brazil, despite many of these chemicals being prohibited in the EU. In 2016 alone Brazil registered 4,208 cases of intoxication by exposure to pesticides and 355 deaths by agricultural chemicals. Amidst weakening regulation in both EU and Brazil, the work of Larissa Mies Bombardi maps the illness, death and infant malformation in Brazil in relation to these toxins, and outlines the risk of contamination of foods being consumed in both Brazil and Europe. We welcome you to join her and leading researchers in pesticide regulation, food contamination and labour standards to explore the contradictions in trade regulations, the power of corporate lobbies, and how civil society can better understand and tackle policy and politics behind agrochemical pollution and poisoning. Co-ordinated by Work, Labour and Globalisation network at University of Strathclyde, European Network of Scientists for Social and Environmental Responsibility and Pesticide Action Network Europe. hTTps://ensser.org/events/2019/pesticides-poisoning-and-the-politics-of-agrichemicals-between-europe-and-brazil/
supersonico
06/5/2019
16:56
Italian Direction of Travel ..news Phytosanitary defense, regulatory updates hTTps://agronotizie.imagelinenetwork.com/difesa-e-diserbo/2019/05/06/difesa-fitosanitaria-aggiornamenti-normativi/62861?fbclid=IwAR3-ewxCeQlX7iQlV4AVOcIzpYMk9jZK8lngzTGKMUDFF-MAaPEo7BPfe7s The day of study scheduled for June 26 in Bologna is scheduled for Aipp Phytopathological Days on "Regulatory updates on phytosanitary defense", which will be held at 10.00 am in the Aula Magna of the Department of Agricultural and Food Sciences, Distal, in Viale Giuseppe Fanin, 44/46. In order to increase the security guarantees for man, biodiversity and the environment the rules that regulate the authorization and use of technical means for phytosanitary defense have been profoundly modified in recent years and are subject to continuous updating. The meeting will inform the operators of the phytoiatric sector, thanks to the intervention of Italian experts, on the foreseeable next regulatory evolution concerning some relevant aspects of the management of plant protection products and defense at national and European level. Program Maristella Rubbiani of the Higher Institute of Health will present the evaluation criteria for endocrine disruptors, while Sara Villa of the Milano Bicocca University will present the new guideline for bee evaluation and impact on ecotoxicological risk management. Focus then on the "National action plan for the sustainable use of plant protection products (Pan) 2019-2023: the main innovations contained in the draft in consultation" with Pasquale Falzarano of the Ministry of Agricultural, Food, Forestry and Tourism Policies - DG Development Rural, Disr III Office - Agriculture, Environment and Farm Holidays and Floriano Mazzini of the Phytosanitary Service, Emilia-Romagna Region. Finally, we will analyze the less well-known technical means of defense: basic and corroborating substances with Giorgio Zena of Ibma Italia. The discussion and conclusions of the meeting will follow. To participate in the meeting registration is required by filling in the online form available starting from Monday 13 May on the site of the Phytopathological Days Phytopathological Days Secretariat: Department of Food Science and Technology, Università degli Studi, Viale G. Fanin, 40/42 - 40127 Bologna Tel 051.2096546 / 2096566 E-mail: 'sameage
supersonico
06/5/2019
16:52
Helpful, thanks.
brucie5
06/5/2019
15:46
Just googled the 60 harvest thing. I hadn't seen this before. Presumably, the biggest pesticidal adversary is glyphosate via roundup, on account of its current scale, and its impact on soil, worms and microbes Has Eden got an answer to this one? Corn, soy, hay and wheat being the largest legal cash crops in the USA. A lot of which goes to feed cattle. And mix with petrol to make biofuels, ironically
brucie5
06/5/2019
15:32
Scandi Noir is a drama that you need to have followed. It cannot be explained :) The Industry was and still is so full of arrogance and Hubris but Glyphosate, Autism and catastrophic ecological collapse, 60 harvest Doom, the growth of Resistant fungi/bacteria are all helping shift the paradigm and conversation rapidly. Indicators.. Regulatory pressure on many Conventional pesticides. Significant Organic market and Biopesticide market growth. Emergency Cedroz derogation along with EGTOP changes and Derogations in organic inputs as market demand outstrips supply. My view is that significant investors are coming on board quietly and their is likely to be further strategic investment this year. That would make sense to me.
supersonico
06/5/2019
14:58
Some talk of hope triumphing over experience. Which will be proved right in this case. ? Unfortunately, I'm here to tell you that servicing an eco critical industry is no guarantor or success, nor is having excellent technology. Michael Walters' site is full of such stories, most of which never saw the light. I am hopeful here, as my investment evidences: but also extremely wary. Lykele, for one, has yet to make his maiden investment. Secondly, the bod appear to own a lot less in paid up shares than any racing certainty would suggest they might. Thirdly, when a share is truly ready to restate, as jlp is currently doing, you see significant investors coming on board. Just sayin'. Please explain relevance of scandi noir. Sometimes you are more recondite than a play by Samuel Beckett. And this feels a lot like waiting for Godot.
brucie5
06/5/2019
14:35
What imo the market is missing is the reason or context as to why Eden keeps not delivering with TT and Bayer etal and potential the crop protection vertical offers. The market looks at the delays as failure to deliver despite the current climate and ecological emergency we now face. I look at these delays as the industry catching up with the potential Eden's Tech has in the stark reality of the death of Green revolution ecocidal Chemistry . Once they became aligned the opportunities amplify, NDA'S restrict communication and the delays caused by bigger plans/strategies/alliances become wider, and more valuable but look to the market like non performance and a little incompetent to boot. But that's just the Noise above the transformational change the technology truly offers. The Market has not got a clue and whilst it is myopic, Investors and Film buffs like us, early to the feast get a decent portion for our hard earned. Hopefully.
supersonico
06/5/2019
14:17
Atty, a while ago you said you had dreams of a share price in the several pounds. Do you still hold this, and if so, are you able to illustrate?
brucie5
06/5/2019
14:12
Super, Quite right, we know, the market doesn't so very, very frustrating. AttyG, We have been under promising for several years now and as Super points out, the market just needs to catch up their understanding with the likes of us who are more fervent. All I ask is that Eden conveys our understanding, their understanding, more thoroughly so value is understood, not misunderstood, not undervalued and equally not hyped. Just plain simple communications demonstrating true current value. Some of us might argue that Shore Capital is misleading the market by downplaying or not understanding Eden and its value correctly. Eden could of course, correct that.
investingisatrickygame
06/5/2019
14:02
Well it’s going to be really interesting in late September/Oct if the hard working partners have had any meaningful sales figures.If they have it will be all down to the absolute change in the market that has occurred and is occurring.They certainly will have to do it by themselves.
chrischas
06/5/2019
13:44
Agreed super. My view (and possibly Sean's view too) is that, for various reasons, we did not deliver what was indicated to the market and consequently the market pays little heed to the words from Sean and Lykele. So, till,we post numbers that demonstrate the story is truly now becoming reality, the share price will not reflect the soon to be realised potential. Thus Sean downplays the story? Under promise over deliver?
attyg
06/5/2019
13:35
UN report today on the environment makes sober reading. Difficult to feel any optimism at all. But we must persevere with solutions.
brucie5
06/5/2019
11:57
Brucie, The market does not know things that we don't imo. We know things the market does not know as do the Scandi Noir film club . The 'Market' can't see the wood for the Trees and what's hidden in plain sight. The Market will catch up with us once they can see the Ducks in a line as they noisily fly out of the woods.
supersonico
06/5/2019
11:26
Super, agreed, but: I think we have to credit the market for knowing things that we don't, as much as ignoring things that we consider significant. Otherwise fans of Eden who have long predicted multiples of current share price, would have been vindicated by now. So far, the doubters have proved right. Agreed?
brucie5
06/5/2019
11:23
Investing, 'you and I' will not be sufficient to move the market. Please be absolutely explicit on why you believe there is such strategic understatement. It is somewhat counterintuitive, though one can speculate.
brucie5
06/5/2019
11:15
Great detective work, Wan. To what extent, then, is Eden really the vehicle for constructive overlap of interest between these two majors, with whatever Bayer is actually doing, as additional. Sustaine is no doubt the key to unlocking this relationship, as and when we come to see who is involved. As you say, it's not a question of IF it works, so much as for whom, and eventually, on what basis legal and financial.
brucie5
06/5/2019
11:09
Super, Exactly, so if you and I know that, why can't Eden simply state the same!!!
investingisatrickygame
06/5/2019
10:48
I appreciate the cautious figures Brucie5 and the Methodology. I'm persuaded that the figures will be on the higher side for the following reasons and indicators. 1)As post 6109 notes the Emergency derogation was announced 2 months after EU approval where as it took 4 time longer than for Mevalone. 2)The toxicity of conventional fumigants and the lack of suitable alternatives has been documented for a couple of decades. Cedroz is a revolutionary formulation as evidenced by Eastman's investment and Italian Emergency approval and the RNS comment "emergency" authorisations are allowed by EU member states when local regulatory authorities judge that they are needed in the local market in order to meet the requirements of growers in the absence of suitable commercially-available alternatives" 3)This absence of 'suitable commercially available alternatives' is occurring at a time of amplified awareness of Pesticide toxicity and compounding growth in the Biopesticide market. 4) Eden understate everything so every figure in ShoreCap note is the absolute minimums imo and I expect this to be the only Emergency derogation.
supersonico
06/5/2019
10:37
I forgot to add Grotech's website to the above - hTTps://www.grotechproduction.co.uk/our-company-2/
wan
06/5/2019
10:15
Back in December I wrote the following - The Sipcam partnership is very interesting, in that Sipcam also manufacture for many of the large players, who are all be being affected by the public's perception and requirements, not to mention tightening Regulatory frameworks. All of which means that biologicals, or solutions to effectively deliver them, means that biologicals will become an ever increasing component of the 'integrated solutions' necessary to deliver on the farm and at the food store i.e. environmentally sustainable solutions which can be applied alone or combined with other plant or seed protection products as part of an 'integrated management program' (making some chemicals effectively safer by using less or making them more effective) In other words and in my opinion only, Sipcam is unlikely to be working in isolation, perhaps especially so in terms of product. (END) The following label for Cedroz provides an interesting insight and indeed further evidence that Sipcam possibly works with/for Eastman - CEDROZ ™ Liquid Nematocide in suspension of capsules (CS) for the control of root knot nematodes hTTp://www.salute.gov.it/fitosanitariwsWeb_new/EtichettaServlet?id=32950 Officine di produzione: Sipcam S.p.A. Via Vittorio Veneto, 81 – Salerano sul Lambro (LO) GROTECH Production Ltd. Britannia Road, Goole, E. Yorkshire (UK) translates as - Production workshops : Sipcam SpA Via Vittorio Veneto, 81 - Salerano sul Lambro (LO) GROTECH Production Ltd. Britannia Road, Goole, E. Yorkshire (UK) I assume that Grotech Production of the UK supply Sipcam with certain products and Sipcam finalise/formulates the end product, Cedroz, in Italy. Given Eastman and Sipcam's significant investments in Eden and thus the increasing validation of Sustaine, it's possible that Eastman may be interested (working with Sipcam) in exploring other product opportunities/combinations.
wan
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