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[supersonico] 17/8/2018 09:22

In other news..Looks like some one now 'owns' Cedroz.. Job not advertised now.

Application Development & Technical Service Manager, Crop Protection
Kingsport, TN, US

[lr2] 17/8/2018 00:45

A weed-killing chemical linked to cancer has been found in dozens of popular breakfast cereals and snack bars, including products marketed to children.

Tests found glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide Roundup, in all but two of 45 oat-based foods sampled by the Environmental Working Group (EWG), an American public health organisation.

Full story in link below.

[supersonico] 17/8/2018 00:37

Comprehensive Interview with Brent Wisner.
Bayer as I said earlier have made a huge error, firstly buying Monsanto and then Appealing the verdict.
Their Share Price is going to seriously suffer as Institutions wake up and fully comprehend the car crash they have just Bought.

Baum Hedlund Law attorney Brent Wisner and Robert F Kennedy Jr discuss the key evidence presented at Dewayne Lee Johnson's Roundup cancer trial (starts @ 41 minutes)

[supersonico] 16/8/2018 16:18

The Monsanto Papers: Poisoning the scientific well.



Monsanto flooded scientific journals with ghostwritten articles and interfered in the scientific process in order to defend its glyphosate herbicides
The paper below is a useful peer-reviewed source detailing Monsanto's deceptive activities aimed at defending glyphosate herbicide, as revealed in the company's internal documents force-disclosed in US cancer litigation and obtained by US Right to Know in freedom of information requests.

Monsanto's activities involve the ghostwriting of scientific articles, secretly sponsoring the pro-GMO website Academics Review, and collusion with the journal editor A. Wallace Hayes to obtain the retraction of the Seralini long-term study on the health impacts of a GM maize and the associated glyphosate-based herbicide.
The paper reminds us that Hayes had a history of defending dangerous products due to his experience as a tobacco company employee: "In one of the earliest ghostwriting documents released from tobacco litigation, A. Wallace Hayes who worked for the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company in the 1980s, is the author of a memorandum that details a proposal for a ghost writing program that would publish studies from toxicological investigations. The memorandum shows how ghostwritten articles would be reviewed by a panel at Reynolds prior to submission in Cancer Research or The Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Tobacco companies such as R. J. Reynolds are credited with writing the playbook for spinning science subsequently adopted by pharmaceutical companies and the agrochemical industry."
The paper concludes, "Whether glyphosate or glyphosate-based formulations such as Roundup are safe is a matter of objective scientific evaluation. Monsanto, however, has poisoned the well by flooding the scientific journals with ghostwritten articles and interfering in the scientific process at multiple levels. This has enormously complicated the task of discovering the truth. If the company had confidence in the safety of its products, there would be no need for such behavior, but it is obvious that there are problems that Monsanto needs to conceal."
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The Monsanto Papers: Poisoning the scientific well
McHenry, L. B. (2018). International Journal of Risk & Safety in Medicine, (Preprint), 1-13.



Abstract:

OBJECTIVE: Examination of de-classified Monsanto documents from litigation in order to expose the impact of the company’s efforts to influence the reporting of scientific studies related to the safety of the herbicide, glyphosate.
METHODS: A set of 141 recently de-classified documents, made public during the course of pending toxic tort litigation, In Re Roundup Products Liability Litigation were examined.

RESULTS: The documents reveal Monsanto-sponsored ghostwriting of articles published in toxicology journals and the lay media, interference in the peer review process, behind-the-scenes influence on retraction and the creation of a so-called academic website as a front for the defense of Monsanto products.

CONCLUSION: The use of third-party academics in the corporate defense of glyhphosate reveals that this practice extends beyond the corruption of medicine and persists in spite of efforts to enforce transparency in industry manipulation.

[weyweyumfozo] 16/8/2018 15:31

Yeah,

a tad depressing of late, but only just over four months 'til the end of 2018, which will be 6 months after the AGM. Surely there will be at least one bit of share price enhancing news by then.

[supersonico] 16/8/2018 15:21

Based on what we've seen so far my bet is with the Verdict being upheld.

We shall see.

Hopefully we'll have some 'short order' news before that.

[weyweyumfozo] 16/8/2018 15:12

Dunno,

just saying, don't count on the verdict being the same after appeal.

[supersonico] 16/8/2018 14:54

weyweyumfozo

'Bayer believes that the jury’s decision is at odds with the weight of scientific evidence'

So why all the deception, disinformation, oppression, ghost writing, discrediting of scientist and Pulitzer winning journalists, malice, manipulation, silencing of decent, lying etc?

'What we found was that their business model was involved with manipulating science,” Krimsky said. “As soon as someone writes a paper that opposed their work then they would contract with a scientist to write another paper that shows they are correct.”

Sheldon Krimsky, a Lenore Stern Professor of Humanities & Social Sciences at Tufts University, worked with journalist Carey Gillam to review the court-released discovery documents from the case and found evidence to suggest corporate malfeasance. Their research was published in The Journal of Public Health Policy.



The list goes on and will be amplified.

[weyweyumfozo] 16/8/2018 14:42

One would have thought that a company like Bayer knew what they were getting into with regard to potential damages claims against Roundup/Monsanto when they bought Monsato. They seem confident that the appeal will reverse the verdict.

"As regards the glyphosate verdict in California on August 10, 2018, Bayer believes that the jury’s decision is at odds with the weight of scientific evidence, decades of real world experience and the conclusions of regulators around the world that all confirm glyphosate is safe and does not cause non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) recently reaffirmed glyphosate does not cause cancer. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) and other regulators around the world have also concluded that glyphosate can be used safely.

The jury’s verdict is just the first step in this case, and it remains subject to post-trial motions in the trial court and to an appeal, as announced by Monsanto. As this case proceeds, Bayer believes courts ultimately will find that Monsanto and glyphosate were not responsible for Mr. Johnson’s illness.'


I wouldn't be surprised to see applications of Roundup limited by law to once a year as alternatives are developed.

[dplewis1] 16/8/2018 14:20

Being new here I'm still trying to work out if this is another AIM 'jam tomorrow' money pit. I will stick it out for at least a few months though as there is going to be a big backlash against this glyphosate stuff. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-16/weed-killing-carcinogen-glyphosate-found-childrens-foods

[supersonico] 16/8/2018 13:38

1)Bayer misjudged the Monsanto decision.

2)Bayer appeal is Misjudged and will likely expose Monsanto's culture of Malice, oppression and Fraud further. It is a missed PR opportunity and considering Bayer have stated they wish to be more transparent, appears to directly contradict their own Narrative

3)The costs of settling now will probably be less than the years of reputation damage, settlements and share price destruction that will follow as they are dragged though the courts. There will be more cancer claims on the horizon, as in parallel glyphosate-based herbicides loose both effectiveness thru resistance and consumer confidence is eroded.

4)The science is not on Monsanto's side so Bayer will loose control of the Narrative as well as reputation. Remember that in the 'Leap by Bayer' videos they are talking about Risk and need the regulators and public to have faith in their judgement. This is not the way to achieve that end.
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'Due to the aforementioned requirements imposed by the U.S. Department of Justice, Bayer did not have access to detailed internal information at Monsanto. Under these conditions, Bayer was not permitted to influence matters relating to Monsanto’s business, and its ability to actively comment on them in detail was extremely limited. Today, however, Bayer also gains the ability to become actively involved in defense efforts in the glyphosate trials and any other legal disputes, such as potential claims for damages in connection with the product Dicamba'.
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Bayer Financed Monsanto Deal With Debt To Avoid Shareholder Vote, Analysts Say

[supersonico] 16/8/2018 13:13

Investing,

Obviously my Agro chemistry knowledge is Zero so it's more a game of word association and guesses as usual.

[supersonico] 15/8/2018 20:36

Expert witness from landmark Monsanto trial offers 5 fixes to shortcomings in current GE food regulations.

For decades, a dangerous myth has persisted -- "inert ingredients" in formulated, ready-for-sale pesticides are not harmful to human health and the environment. For this reason, the impact of inert ingredients are not taken into account when the industry and government conducts a risk assessment of an active ingredient. Federal law classifies inert ingredients as "Confidential Business Information" (CBI), and blocks disclosure to poison control centers and physicians routinely treating pesticide poisoning victims.
The heightened toxicity of Roundup and other glyphosate-based herbicides, in contrast to pure glyphosate, played a dual role in Lee Johnson's trial in San Francisco, CA.

EPA's near-sole focus on the toxicity of pure glyphosate undermined the relevance of the agency's reassuring risk assessment, since no one ever sprays, or is exposed to pure glyphosate.
Monsanto's systematic effort over decades to suppress chronic animal studies on formulated Roundup, despite knowing from its own studies that the inert ingredients in its many Roundup brands increased risks substantially, no doubt influenced the jury, especially as it pondered the award of punitive damages.

Old myths die hard, despite the now well-known fact that inert ingredients in the world's leading, formulated herbicide, Roundup, and the world's leading family of insecticides (called neonicotinyls) dramatically increase toxicity to organisms up and down the tree of life, including people.

The policy fixes for problem #2 are obvious and simple—Congress needs to amend the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) to: (a) require all active and inert ingredients to be disclosed on pesticide product labels, and (b) direct the EPA to require chronic feeding studies in mice and rats on at least some major formulations when there is evidence from short-term testing of heightened toxicity following exposures to formulated pesticides, as opposed to pure active ingredients.

[investingisatrickygame] 15/8/2018 13:07

Super,

I imagine the NHS would love to see many patients and the huge cost burden removed as a result of the reduced occurrence of cancer.

I bet many councils up and down the country who manage huge swathes of grassland will be reviewing chemical usage right now. Many are nearly bust and will not want a lawsuit to rear its head and completely ruin them.

Very interesting time.

[supersonico] 15/8/2018 10:50

The Monsanto verdict was the Chemical Agriculture version of the VW Emissions fixing scandal where USA fined VW in retaliation for German regulators and Deutsche bank not playing Global rate fixing games with the USA . VW took the hit and along with regulator blow back the move has accelerated us away from diesel and towards electric vehicles. The Monsanto action will in turn accelerate big AG, pushed by more robust regulation and review towards the further development of alternatives such as Bio pesticides. Resistance issues and a ballooning public health crisis will add momentum to the paradigm shift.

The Lawsuits will keep this on the publics Radar and the growing picture of known toxicity along with evidence of deception and malice by Monsanto will be damning for Bayer who's error is to keep repeating the Monsanto Line and who's woes will only be magnified by the long line of new cases and their inevitable decision to appeal.

[supersonico] 15/8/2018 10:14

Robert Kennedy Jr. launches first lawsuit of thousands against Monsanto alleging herbicide Roundup causes non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma

[investingisatrickygame] 15/8/2018 08:52

Check out @careygillam’s Tweet:

Carey Gillam interview on the Roundup award

[supersonico] 14/8/2018 16:50

Who are the Nutters Mike?

Monsanto have Never tested for the carcinogenicity of the formulation chemicals along with the Active ingredient Glyphosate. Internal documents say they have avoided this issue as Monsanto are afraid of what we will find as the Formulation chemicals are known to enhance the potency of the Glyphosate.

Brent Wisner 13min

That 'Potency' word again .