Eden Research Share Discussion Threads

[supersonico] 29/9/2019 13:07

653/654/655

[supersonico] 29/9/2019 13:03

Gosh

It's a complete surprise to me that Fraudy thinks PugUgly is right. LLL

Who would have thought that. LLL

But Pugugly and Fraudy are in the same boat.

The.. We do no research and we only have a rear view mirror Boat.

Fraudy can't even say Cedroz

Both Will Look Like Lemons. LLL.

[pugugly] 29/9/2019 11:59

Ah - The ostrich defence - Share price fallen fron an over-hyped 25p to 8.25p bid - and cumulative loss of over £36 MILLION versu a market cap of £18 million - and minimal revenue -

Any other bulls got an answer -

[supersonico] 29/9/2019 10:52

Pugugly,

I can explain why.. but don't need too.
I don't mind if you don't believe me..but it's not BS.
I have been the most accurate and diligent researcher on this BB.
I'm really not motivated by provocation or the need to prove to you or others why we are where we are right now.

[investingisatrickygame] 27/9/2019 19:53

"With Eden I’ve never been able to understand how a seemingly superb product offering never seems to make any progress saleswise."

A justifiable question.

[kenmitch] 27/9/2019 19:20

It’s already BEEN a very long wait, mainly because it is growing revenues and profits that lift the share price.

Brucie. Thanks. I sold again a while ago, and will buy back if/when news seems to justify a buy. Too many bargain opportunities elsewhere to hold any share that looks like doing nothing for quite a while.

I’ll be pleased for keen long standing investors if I’m wrong about what will lift the share price.

With Eden I’ve never been able to understand how a seemingly superb product offering never seems to make any progress saleswise.

[investingisatrickygame] 27/9/2019 17:41

If some of you think it is revenues and profits then I think you have a long wait.

Eden should, in my opinion, be positioned for what it is and can be. Eden can easily re-position themselves this way if the revenues and profits are less than 3 years away.

[brucie5] 27/9/2019 17:33

Ken, good to see you here. Agreed re revenues; though there may be something in Sustaine to put a bomb up the share price. Sooner or later the discussions will need to conclude.

[kenmitch] 27/9/2019 16:38

If Cenkos were to come up with an incredibly bullish note and with, say, a £2 price target for Eden it probably wouldn't help the share price.

Increasing revenues and profits would do the trick.

[weyweyumfozo] 27/9/2019 16:16

Maybe a lot of PIs use Stockopedia (or similar) these days. Doesn't Eden have a poor rating on that?

[bjlk] 27/9/2019 15:22

Never delivering on time and total contempt for shareholders/owners but they are ok at tweeting to the 200 people that follow us..... asteroid jam tomorrow...

[investingisatrickygame] 27/9/2019 13:21

On the 8th of July via RNS Eden research made the following statement

"Appointment of Nominated Adviser and Broker

Eden Research plc (AIM: EDEN), the AIM listed company that develops and supplies breakthrough biopesticide products and natural microencapsulation technologies to the global crop protection, animal health and consumer products industries, today announces that it has appointed Cenkos Securities plc as sole broker and Nominated Adviser with immediate effect."

Subsequently, Cenkos has distributed a detailed 50+ page research note on Eden titled 'Killing It'

As we stand this very day, Eden's share price is backtracking further, 26p in 2014 to mid 8's 5 years later valuing the company at around £16+million.

Cenkos appears not to have the ability to drive anyone into the share price and if Cenkos has a discretionary fund, they have not used it.

So the question is 'why is Eden not killing it?

And why is Eden not doing anything about it?

Any why is no one buying Eden stock?

Has Eden even analysed the why?

Is Eden even concerned about the why?

Is the Eden prospect truly understood?

Eden Management having made the change from Shore Capital to Cenkos should be in the offices of Cenkos right now asking them what the hell is going on?

What remit has Eden given Cenkos?

What efforts has Cenkos made, in what channels and with what outcomes?

What are the next steps in Cenkos play to get the share price closer to the 'killing it' statement?

Has Cenkos been provided the ammunition and latitude to so?


WHY IS EDEN'S SHARE PRICE FAILING SO DISMALLY AND WHEN ARE SHAREHOLDERS, CERTAINLY THE LARGEST ONES, GOING TO CALL MANAGEMENT TO ACCOUNT?

[brucie5] 27/9/2019 12:41

Albatross, I can't recall having one, though you may be able to dig one up. I think projections for the time being, is for the birds, and for Jak, of course.

For time being I think Cenkos has it about right. But where Jak never wants to stray is into the reality of CED/MEV and the sheer time it's taken to get these to where they are now. With each new territory and application the value of those two will become increasingly evident. And that of course is a function of Sipcam and Eastman, whose longer term interests will of course be well in excess of the current suggested value! Sipcam, need we remind ourselves, is already a strategic investor in the company.

[littlealbatross2] 27/9/2019 10:14

Brucie
If it's not too much trouble would you please remind us what our end of year share price guesstimates were for your competition. (Or would it be too depressing?)

[brucie5] 27/9/2019 09:57

Northwick, it's a waiting game now, I'm afraid. But current markets mean that you're not exactly spoiled for choice for alternative place to put your cash - except in cash!

Hopefully, the EPA regulatory permissions for MEV/CED will come this side of Christmas as put some more 'terra firma' underneath that combined $1.2bn market opportunity. According to my working, last years sales at £1.6m was c. 1% of that - on far smaller slice of the available universe.

[northwick] 27/9/2019 08:19

Surely, someone out there must be interested in Eden, and in its potential?

[bjlk] 25/9/2019 14:23

Tumbleweed.

[supersonico] 24/9/2019 12:10

FYI.. SEE on the move ..

Here is why;

[investingisatrickygame] 24/9/2019 11:45

Thomas Cook V Eden

How timely. I see Thomas Cook is being hammered in the paper today and on the radio. One of the central issues is the unsustainable pay and options of the directors which when the options did not work out vis-à-vis price, were just 're-worked' to enable that function to transpire.

The issue being debated is why have the directors been awarded so much pay AND options when the share price has done nothing over 10 years and the first requirement of a Plc is to 'manage its share price' I kid you not, it has been on radio 5 live today and this is the 'professional' argument.

Thomas Cook was a loss making operation, their share price travelled backwards and the directors continued to reward themselves handsomely.

Eden is a loss making operation, our share price is going backwards and the directors courtesy of the remuneration committee continue to pay extremely healthy salaries, very generous bonuses and options, albeit the latter is failing.

Now, none of this is personal for me and the directors read these boards and can see mine and others written words. But I believe I am posting facts!!!!!

Why don't Eden set an example, cut back the pay, bonuses and share option awards or set the latter to kick in at 30p/50/70p, show understanding, show a sign of intent to the market and then understandably, take their rewards, when they have earned them and their co-owners have too via the share price.

That sounds fair and sustainable to me and equally, GRAS for the cash burn. One might argue, 'The Natural Solution!'