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[brucie5] 04/6/2019 22:26

What's all this?



Top of the page it references mevalone 3aey. What?



Comments welcome.

[brucie5] 04/6/2019 20:53

But Eden is not -yet- organic...

[supersonico] 04/6/2019 05:51

Managing Nematodes without Methyl Bromide



Plant-parasitic nematodes are some of the most difficult pests or diseases that growers in Florida are facing. They are difficult to recognize, are often confused with other biotic or abiotic problems, and can cause total crop loss in many fruits and vegetables. This is especially true in Florida’s warm and sandy soils, where nematodes, such as root-knot (Meloidogyne spp.) and sting (Belonolaimus longicaudatus), can build up rapidly to high and damaging levels. In Florida, much more than in any other state in the country, managing nematodes is not an option, but a must.

CONCLUSION
The ban on methyl bromide has certainly made nematode management much more challenging. The days of a single-shot solution to control nematodes are over, and more integrated nematode management programs are needed. Nematodes will not go away, and will likely increase with more intensive land use and warmer weather. Nematologists at the University of Florida will continue the battle against these pesky and secretive pests, and to develop effective and sustainable nematode programs to help Florida growers.
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[supersonico] 03/6/2019 11:39

Wild Word Association..news.

Taminco do Amines. Sipcam do Amines and look to reviving IP which references Amines. We guess Both companies are 'collaborators' with SustainE.
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Three Taminco business divisions – Functional Amines, Specialty Amines, and Crop Protection – produce products used by our customers in the manufacturing of everyday products primarily used for these end markets: agriculture, water treatment, personal and home care, animal nutrition, and energy.


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The present invention relates to anticryptogamic compound in particular, concerns a process for the preparation of an anticriptagamic compound having a potent biological activated, and the compound obtained by said known method is that both years have been introduced, with remarkable success in the practice of anticryptogamic fight in substitution of copper salts, various derivatives of dithiocarbanic. Such derivatives, which have the HCSH group as a fundamental chemical nucleus, are used in salts or derivatives of SH function.

Among the products that have been most successful are zinc, iron, manganese, and ethylenebisdithiocarbamic acid salts, and tetramethylthiuran disulfide, which is obtained by means of an oxidizing reaction on methylmeriocarbamic acid. Different compounds have different biological activities on various fungi. In their practical use they have very precise indications for their use. The different behavior of the compounds is related to the chemical nature of the starting amine used to prepare the dithiocarbamic acid, of the metal that forms the salt, if any, and of the processes depositable oxidation of the SH group.

[investingisatrickygame] 03/6/2019 11:12

patience
/ˈpeɪʃ;(ə)ns/
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noun
1.
the capacity to accept or tolerate delay, problems, or suffering without becoming annoyed or anxious.


Tolerance, suffering, annoyed. All extremely relevant in the case that is Eden.

[supersonico] 03/6/2019 09:16

Of Course. Patiently they wait.

[investingisatrickygame] 03/6/2019 09:08

You reckon?

[supersonico] 03/6/2019 09:02

The Dampening Broth is Brewing, the Tables are being Set with all the Best China. The guests wait patiently.

[supersonico] 02/6/2019 10:02

Intriguing;

A Sipcam 50 plus year old patent gets quietly reborn without any of the usually customary details and has strong word association with contemporary efforts to phase out copper in Organic agriculture.



The present invention relates to anticryptogamic compound in particular, concerns a process for the preparation of an anticriptagamic compound having a potent biological activated, and the compound obtained by said known method is that both years have been introduced, with remarkable success in the practice of anticryptogamic fight in substitution of copper salts, various derivatives of dithiocarbanic. Such derivatives, which have the HCSH group as a fundamental chemical nucleus, are used in salts or derivatives of SH function.

Among the products that have been most successful are zinc, iron, manganese, and ethylenebisdithiocarbamic acid salts, and tetramethylthiuran disulfide, which is obtained by means of an oxidizing reaction on methylmeriocarbamic acid. Different compounds have different biological activities on various fungi. In their practical use they have very precise indications for their use. The different behavior of the compounds is related to the chemical nature of the starting amine used to prepare the dithiocarbamic acid, of the metal that forms the salt, if any, and of the processes depositable oxidation of the SH group.
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A cryptogam is a plant that reproduces by spores, without flowers or seeds. "Cryptogamae" means "hidden reproduction", referring to the fact that no seed is produced, thus cryptogams represent the non-seed bearing plants. Other names, such as "thallophytes", "lower plants", and "spore plants" are also occasionally used. As a group, Cryptogamae are the opposite of the Phanerogamae or Spermatophyta, the seed plants. The best-known groups of cryptogams are algae, lichens, mosses and ferns, but it also includes non-photosynthetic organisms traditionally classified as plants, such as fungi, slime molds, and bacteria.The classification is now deprecated in Linnaean taxonomy.

[brucie5] 31/5/2019 15:38

Yes, had a brief whiz through. Interesting. Inter alia,as Super indicated, synthetic ppps cannot count as 'organic'.

[chrischas] 31/5/2019 15:08

This one makes interesting reading too

[chrischas] 31/5/2019 15:03

Supersónico- that is a very good example

[supersonico] 31/5/2019 14:43

IPM/ONIONS ..news

CALS program educates New York onion farmers to fight pests, cut chemical sprays




A common onion pest was wreaking havoc on New York state onion crops, but Brian Nault of Cornell AgriTech developed a science-based strategy that has decreased pesticide use and improved onion quality. Above, a field of onions destroyed by winged thrips, an insect pest.

Until recently, New York onion farmers had just two insecticide options for controlling onion thrips, a pervasive insect pest, and neither was good. One was short-lived, the other was dangerous to work with – and both were losing effectiveness.

“The biggest factor for onion farmers is preserving effectiveness,” said Brian Mortellaro ’95, who farms more than 200 acres in Elba, New York. “You can lose hundreds and hundreds of dollars an acre if thrips get out of control.”
Growing onions is a tough business; the crop is intensely managed on nutrient-rich soils found only in specific areas, and it’s beset by pests and pathogens. Winged onion thrips attack leaves, spread viruses and exacerbate bacterial and fungal rots. Insecticides are currently the most effective tactic for controlling them, yet thrips are notorious for developing resistance.
Enter Cornell entomologist Brian Nault, who spent a decade testing less toxic, more effective chemicals, which nearly all New York onion farmers now use. For years, though, most farmers were spraying on “calendar-based” schedules – applying pesticide at predetermined times – without knowing precisely when and if spraying was necessary. So Cornell experts set out to change that.

Nault, Ph.D. student Ashley Leach and longtime CCE vegetable extension specialist Christy Hoepting created and studied the effectiveness of an integrated pest management (IPM) implementation plan to increase growers’ use of insecticide application guidelines. Those guidelines include employing a rotation of insecticide sprays and action thresholds for when to spray, to prevent pests’ resistance and reduce spraying.

The winged thrip, an insect pest that can wreak havoc on an onion field. In New York, the onion crop is valued at $40 million to $50 million annually.
The study was supported by the New York Farm Viability Institute as well as an extension and outreach assistantship at Cornell AgriTech.

Over three years, Hoepting, Leach and other extension educators spent approximately 600 hours scouting for thrips in the muck farms of Genesee, Orleans, Wayne, Orange and Oswego counties, the state’s major onion-producing areas. The team shared scouting and research-based IPM recommendations with growers weekly, offering guidance on when and with what insecticide to spray. The results were definitive: Growers increased insecticide class rotation from 76% to 100% and use of the action threshold for determining whether to spray from 57% to 82%.

By using action thresholds, growers made 12% to 50% fewer insecticide applications in their third year participating in the program as compared to their first year, and saved $148 per acre. In New York, the onion crop is valued at $40 million to $50 million annually; in a good year, a farmer can gross $6,000 per acre.
“At the end of the day, the success of our research largely depends on the growers,” Leach said. “This study acknowledges that the success of IPM doesn’t rely on the researcher developing IPM tactics, but on the grower, who chooses to implement those tactics.”

To create change, Cornell researchers and educators have demonstrated trust in growers – just as much as they had to gain growers’ trust.
“Brian, Christy and their team are uncommonly responsive to our concerns and receptive to input from growers. They’re very hard-working people, who aren’t afraid to sweat and get dirty,” Mortellaro said. “They’re helping us fight the good fight, and it can be brutal out there.”
Nault’s study, published in February in Pest Management Science, will inform continuing efforts by Nault and Hoepting at building success for New York state’s onion industry in 2019. Nault will be meeting with growers to refine the program’s guidelines; Hoepting will be scouting fields in Orleans and Wayne counties while advising growers on practices outlined in the study as part of the CCE Vegetable Program.

Sarah Thompson is a freelance writer for Cornell AgriTech.
This article also appeared in the Cornell Chronicle.

[brucie5] 31/5/2019 13:16

Super, thanks, that's what I thought.

Peter White on BBC R4 'You and Yours' today addresses the dietary shift currently taking place towards vegetarian alternatives to meat. Relevance? Diet, health and climate are part of the same field of awareness, and this being viewed, unsurprisingly as an evolving part of the food market by major brands, which are either needing to develop or buy up successful start up lines. I have no doubt that this is already the case with EDEN, as Sipcam, Eastman and Bayer look the significance of what it promises to their product lines. I believe this also goes some way to address the question of why EDEN doesn't do more to promote its technology offering more widely. It will be for those companies to promote the benefits of the specific product lines, and we will see the validation of that in rising revenue streams. Frustrating in the meantime, but on a six month view, we may be well paid to be patient.

Chrischas, I don't disagree with you. We all need to exercise personal as well as collective responsibility. What I see in dietary shifts and attitude towards nature and renewables, is that we are at last beginning that massive journey. It's made more sluggish by those who don't or won't understand what's at stake, including the clown in the Whitehouse. But in this, as in so much else, he's a reaction to the trend, not the trend itself.

[supersonico] 31/5/2019 12:48

Brucie,

As I understand it atm Eden tech does not qualify as Organic due to it's synthetic nature however being pragmatic and sensible the EU has recently released a final conclusion.. yet to be formally ratified concerning Eugenol/Geraniol/Thymol.
A positive result from the EU ratifying body will be very good news for Eden I'm told, although I'm not sure when that is likely to come.


From post 5976

'Conclusions The Group concluded that although the natural origin is to be preferred, the use of these terpenes eugenol, geraniol and thymol is in line with the objectives, criteria, and principles of organic farming as laid down in Council Regulation (EC) No 834/2007. They should therefore be included in Annex II, preferably from natural origin'
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The EGTOP Final report Plant Protection Product IV, developed by the Panel of experts of the European Commission on organic production, has been published. It includes the positive evaluation of the ARAW component Terpenes (Eugenol, Thymol and GERANIUML), the biofungicide of Sipcam Iberia. Another sustainable Tool of Sipcam Iberia available to Spanish agriculture. More information on the report: More information about The Araw:

[brucie5] 31/5/2019 12:30

Welcome and good luck Tanners. I think you'll been for an interesting six months!

Super, good link. I should have read it before posting on the other thread, but it does support my observations there. Also raises the issue: if organic and fairtrade are the go to values that consumers are looking for in the market, how does EDEN become involved? Perhaps you could clarify to what extent EDEN counts as 'organic'?

[supersonico] 31/5/2019 11:01

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Europe’s food sector shows highest growth of sustainable product sales
29-May-2019 By Oliver Morrison

Food retailers in France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands are finding growing consumer demand for sustainably sourced products, according to a survey of over 1,800 companies in the five countries by the International Trade Commission.

[tanners] 31/5/2019 10:53

Well for better or worse I've dipped a toe with an initial purchase which I managed to get below the mid price so not surprisingly easy to buy at the moment.

Fully understand long term holders frustrations and whilst not one to bet the house on, I think given the climatic mood music at the moment coupled with the products Eden have, it's worth a small punt, though definitely at the high risk end.

[supersonico] 31/5/2019 09:25

The long awaited UK approval of Mevalone will be an interesting opportunity for Eden as they have links with many Vineyards/ Big Wine makers like Chapel Down who have been part of the Trials process.

I'm hoping for a Fitbug type 'association' moment where people maybe motivated to invest because Mevalone becomes tangible to them and part of something they can relate too... Wine.

Being a Uk product/company might also appeal to those with a Red Tractor mentality approach to Eating and Drinking as well .

[supersonico] 30/5/2019 15:54

If only TT could agree on the colour of the Lid ..news

Sustainable approach to Poultry Red Mite explored
Scientists are hoping to develop sustainable approaches to control Poultry Red Mite (PRM) in commercial laying hen systems.
The MiteControl project, which is due to run until April 2022, aims to develop effective and sustainable non-chemical treatment methods to control PRM using an Integrated Pest Management (IPM) approach.

Economic loss
PRM pose a substantial threat to global egg production, and is particularly prevalent in North West Europe, with more than 90% of farmers likely to be affected by the parasite, accounting for an estimate loss of €360m annually.

[chrischas] 30/5/2019 15:50

Since you are all sparking off.
I really think you have not referred to the right member of the BOD.I alluded to him
Quite a long time ago.I was very deadpan as to where the share price would go.Its his baby and he wants to nurture it and probably see it past its teens , while being the controlling head of the household.
I now believe the company is very much in danger of losing out during its slow steady growth phase.Innovation of its big competitors is happening,the regulatory rules are fast changing and this is precisely the time that Eden should be dancing up and down

They are very much in danger of losing out to competitors by not promoting themselves

.Its almost as if there is a shareholder stitch up in the making.That is my worst fear

[dplewis1] 30/5/2019 15:16

Ok thanks for the help I'll try Sean

[supersonico] 30/5/2019 15:00

I've often had prompt responses from Sean Smith.