Dialight Share Discussion Threads

[wylecoyote] 07/3/2014 17:00

Beeezzz, I thought you were bullish here?

[beeezzz] 07/3/2014 16:33

Well they pushed the share price to 930p to encourage some selling now order filled, can see this going back below 900p

[wylecoyote] 06/3/2014 12:38

Got some at 8.56 the other day... Target 1050p...come on...good strong and steady rise. It will probably drop now.

[beeezzz] 06/3/2014 11:31

Back above £9 shorts slowly melting away in the Spring sunshine.

Addison.. My advice is check the market size for dialight LED's and you will see even a small slice of this would impact on what is a small niche player in the LED market place.

[addison17] 05/3/2014 09:33

Back to DIA if we can please chaps. It has been on my sell list for a while now, however recent results suggest otherwise ( sorry for the delay been away )

Underlying profit £14.5M - down, but as previously stated.
Lighting revenues up by 51% - very nice
Lighting segment profit up 31% - not bad


Do we think that the worst has now been priced in and that the share price will head back to previous high levels. Comments would be appreciated.

Small stock holder here for a while but still in profit.

[beeezzz] 04/3/2014 17:53

Wyle...Only if it is your main source of income in other words your job.

[wylecoyote] 04/3/2014 17:12

Itchy,

thanks for the clarification. I think what you are saying that as it doesn't come under capital gains, it becomes taxable within your Income tax allowances?

[beeezzz] 04/3/2014 16:19

IC... Well who does understand the Stock market even the so called experts get it wrong, which I imagine you consider yourself in that bracket, and what's an icome is that similar to an iPhone iTablet Ha Ha.................

Well thanks for putting me right on your tax situation, I'm still of the opinion that spread betting is tax free as mention earlier. As for shorting I don't do it on principle as it stinks just like the people that do do it.

Anyway I must go the P.E. Teacher has just poked her head round the door and asked if I could rub some ointment into her !!!!!!!!!!! ,,,,,catch ya later.

[itchycrack] 04/3/2014 14:14

No, I'm am not still short. I only had a small 15% of my original large short position left which got stopped out when the price closed above the 50 day MA. I currently hold no position. I still stand by my original comments regarding why I think DIA was a short and no longer the high growth company it once was. On that point we'll just have to agree to disagree as its a pointless discussion, you have your view, and I have mine. Case closed.

[longsight] 04/3/2014 14:06

Itchy

I have no position in DIA at present [except a small holding as a trustee] & no axe to grind. I base the clueless comment on the fact that you were still short & attempting to trash sentiment when DIA was clearly oversold. You appeared to me to have a superficial view of the Co's prospects - but I guess you were just talking your book. imo you are a bit too transparent.

fwiw though I don't comment I have followed DIA since its original listing

[itchycrack] 04/3/2014 13:54

Well longsight, I've made money all the way up from 700p to 1400p and almost all the way back down again, so I've in effect DOUBLED my return in DIA over the past 2 years - I called it right and have profitted extremely well from it - and you think I'm clueless!!!!! Hope that helps! (which by the way is be taken as tongue-in-cheek humour) - "psychological warfare" PMSL!!!!! :-)

[longsight] 04/3/2014 13:24

Itchy - I've heard that argument before & I agree some merit to it. But as to the psychological warfare of "I hope that helps" - not impressed. I also think you are clueless about DIA fwiw - I hope that helps

[itchycrack] 04/3/2014 13:21

WyleCoyote - Profits from spreadbetting are taxable if its your only source of icome. Just as with any form of trading, you should hedge your risk using standard risk management techniques, e.g. many hedge funds run long/short portfolios. You can do exactly the same with spreadbets, there's no difference. Whether you use CFDs, speadbets, options, etc, its just a tool to make money and/or manage risk. Just because its called spreadbetting people get the wrong idea, hence why most retail punters loose money. Its actually cheaper to spreadbet that use CFDs. I know some seriously wealthly traders that only use spreadbetting.

Beeezzz - you seriously need to go back to school! You clearly don't understand even the basics! I strongly suggest you keep well clear of the stock market :-)

[wylecoyote] 04/3/2014 13:02

Itchy,

yes, I guess you could say it is quicker to make returns. However, the bounce could end up being just as quick.

Anyhow, when shorting do don't get any dividends and you pay interest while you borrow the shares. The maximum you can earn is 100%. In my opinion it is an opportunist tool(only in stocks that I am long in...). Also, I thought profits were not taxable. I think if you use a spreadbetting account it is tax free as it is classed as betting...

[beeezzz] 04/3/2014 12:58

So shorting stocks is not the same as spread betting. Thanks for your insight, obviously it's not investing then.

[itchycrack] 04/3/2014 12:05

beeezzz, shorting profits are taxed in the same way as profits made from longs, there is absolutely no difference. You should use shorting to enhance your portfolio profits or hedge long positions instead of criticising them due to your lack of understanding. Hedge funds (generally) make far superior returns over long only funds because of the very fact they can go short. Use shorts to your advantage along with other instruments like options, etc.

[beeezzz] 04/3/2014 11:58

I wish they would tax shorting just like all other investments that would put a spanner in the works, they bloody tax everything else.

[itchycrack] 04/3/2014 08:53

longsight - an observation for you - in 99% of cases you make money much faster with a short than a long. DIA 1.5 years to go from 700p to 1400p, just 6 months to do the reverse, you do the maths.

Hope that helps your basic understanding of market dynamics :-)

[longsight] 03/3/2014 17:05

Itchy only ever goes short afaia.

I hope that helps ....

[wylecoyote] 03/3/2014 12:51

Itchy,

your argument for not going long is no better than your decision for going short. Still you did very well out of it, so what do I know...

[itchycrack] 27/2/2014 19:39

Well the final 15% of my original short position got stopped out when the price went through the 50 day MA yesterday. Not a bad return over the past few months. No reason to go long at this stage IMHO, will wait and evaluate.

[tanelorn] 27/2/2014 17:26

In at 805, so happy!!

[chillwill] 27/2/2014 17:09

Some big numbers of share trades quoted today. Looking at the price action of last couple of days, they'll just be the result of large orders being filled (over the course of a few days).

However, it certainly has helped move the share price - the mm's are having to stick the price up to make people sell so the orders can be filled... at approx 1.5% of the stock (+£4m worth), I'd expect a holding RNS to pop up tomorrow.

[wylecoyote] 27/2/2014 16:36

dewtrader, I have some.... You can have them now for 11.75 each...;-)