Debenhams Share Discussion Threads

[this_time_its_different] 22/1/2019 16:10

sorry, 5 year old took over my account.

[debsdowner] 22/1/2019 16:10

Dyson shi*ing on the UK moving headquarters to Singapore.

He needs to give his Knighthood up!

[niggle] 22/1/2019 16:07

this_time - you been smoking something?

[this_time_its_different] 22/1/2019 15:59

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[this_time_its_different] 22/1/2019 15:59

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[terminated] 22/1/2019 15:34

I don't think creditors loose out but it's a chance to close down loss making store without liabilities as well as offsetting redundancies. That has to strengthen possibility of being able to repay current debt. For me it has to happen and I dare say MA would support it.

[debsdowner] 22/1/2019 15:20

Not sure...

"If he waited for administration he could be out bid and lose the £100 million he paid for his shares."


There are unlikely going to be many queuing up to bid even on administration in these times of over borrowed companies with the world economy slowing.

Philip Day maybe but not many more.

One has to bear into account the most profitable stores in Madasin only got a low ball offer!

[niggle] 22/1/2019 15:13

hoper2

True - that's the sticking point here - I did say that last week - exactly the same - if it went intto administration he could be outbid. Have to work out what a CVA would do to the shares. 75% of creditors would need to agree though!

[kammi1] 22/1/2019 14:59

Todays rise is just the start. Looking Good!!!!!!!!!!!

[hoper2] 22/1/2019 14:40

Ashley may wait for DEB to go into administration, but he may try a CVA or re-negotiation of their leases instead. With HofF he invested about £10 million in their shares and then bought then out of administration for £90 million. With DEB he has already invested £100 million in their shares and it will cost him an awful lot more to buy a debt free DEB out of administration. He basically already has control of DEB with his 30% holding, if he can get a CVA or re-negotiation away his 30% would be a lot more valuable than it is now. If he waited for administration he could be out bid and lose the £100 million he paid for his shares.

[this_time_its_different] 22/1/2019 14:29

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[niggle] 22/1/2019 14:05

"Sports Direct bought House of Fraser after it went into administration."

No reason for shareholders to be able to extract a penny out of Debs after administration.

They will go, he will wait. There no benefit for landlords to agree now. The company would be leaner after administration and more readily afford the rents. That's the time to re-negotiate.

[kammi1] 22/1/2019 13:46

It seems that the willingness of Land lords to reach agreement with retailers has been the reason for this rise. INTU has reached agreement with HoF on 4 stores.

[debsdowner] 22/1/2019 13:31

House of Fraser

BBC business live

12:59
Four more House of Fraser stores saved

"House of Fraser stores in four shopping centres owned by Intu have been saved following talks with the department store chain's owners, Sports Direct.
The stores at Chapelfield in Norwich, Lakeside in Thurrock, Metrocentre in Gateshead and Victoria Centre in Nottingham had been earmarked to close.
An Intu spokesperson said there had been "constructive discussions" and "an interim agreement" had been reached.
Sports Direct bought House of Fraser after it went into administration."

[comedy] 22/1/2019 13:05

stop talking about yourself niggle):

[only who?] 22/1/2019 12:51

Good time to add to your short, Q and bouka

[debsdowner] 22/1/2019 12:50

Q

Nothing has changed one swallow doesn't make a summer, how many times have you seen a bounce, then the share price reversed and a new low, the chart is the evidence.

[debsdowner] 22/1/2019 12:47

There may be some value in the High Street but not here with the billion of leases that is why MA will not bid, he waits for administration.

[qantas] 22/1/2019 12:46

Everything goes full circle and Ashley has for the foresight.

Amazing how the fake trolls go away when the share price rises.

hammering up.

Please do your own research.

[kammi1] 22/1/2019 12:40

Would love it to be a turnaround story. MA seems to buying the high street not just one or two chains. He must think ,like me ,that there is value here in the long term. It has been depressing to watch red on the screen on a daily bases and read the negative posts here. Good to have a turn around.

[joj1] 22/1/2019 12:03

High street job losses discussed on LBC James O’Brien.12pm now. Would love it if some posters on
this board were on

[niggle] 22/1/2019 11:47

The most telling news is this. That MA will not move until Debs has gone - no knight in shining armour. Be interesting to see how they go with renegotiating the leases though.

[geniechem] 22/1/2019 11:45

How even is this still trading and why not suspended??