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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
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| Darwen | DHP | London | Ordinary Share |
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Posted at 14/7/2008 16:45 by m.t.glass DARWEN (DHP) IS NOW OPTARE (OPE)and has a renamed thread at |
Posted at 07/7/2008 11:41 by greenisgood Stud 69 - that whole TNT press release was very odd because though it speaks of 100 new vehicles when it breaks it down it suggests 50 TAN (as 1st tranche - maybe another 50 after???) 2 EV's from china and 10 hybrids from Aus. Either way that means either 62 vehicles or 112. Left me puzzled. I don't hold DHP and will wait for the air to clear before re-considering, but I do hold TAN |
Posted at 02/7/2008 11:47 by stud69 My guys tell me that both St Helens Capital where Stanley has a major shareholding and TAN under big investigation from FSA it is bound to spread to DHPThere may be trouble ahead............. so get your head down and take care with DHP pity as it had good possibilities it has to be a sell as there will be a clause that the listing can be pulled |
Posted at 24/6/2008 08:39 by bearraider MTG - not sure I can see where the orders for Darwen buses are suddenly going to come from, they said historically 3 a week, now 6 a week (doubled production) and aiming for 10 a week by the end 2008. Unless the market place has suddenly expanded then Darwen seems to expect to take almost 10% of the existing total of the 4000 market on top of what it was already doing before, by the year end. Will the other UK bus companies (and the EU ones) just surrender mkt share that easily?The other side to this is why was Optare available for sale - unprofitable? low profits? falling sales, cash flow problems. The share price seems to be heading down to the placement price, it will provide opp for the PI to get in on similar terms as the bigger boys - (hope that works out better than at TAN). Wonder if DHP is going to worry about how the city sees it like TAN seems to, I would have thought it's small size and Mkt cap would not make that necessary, at present anyway. |
Posted at 20/6/2008 17:47 by bearraider stud The weather has been great here for last 20 days but supposed to rain tommorrow! have pasted relevant bit The Directors believe that this is a transformational deal, and the Executive Directors have subscribed to Placing Shares worth £650,000 at the Placing Price, alongside the institutional investors. It seems very much seems like Roy has taken the cash, not sure if he is included in the execs mentioned in the RNS or not. Being charitable it may be he had to act quickly to procure Optare, to quick for DHP to raise the finance so he did it via jameston and then just sold it on at cost + expenses to DHP. |
Posted at 20/6/2008 08:10 by m.t.glass Will they be changing the company ticker from DHP to summat else?OPT is already taken. So is BUS. OPTA is available. So is HBUS (H for Hybrid). And so is OBUS (O for Optare) |
Posted at 06/5/2008 23:57 by 2trying Well - for what its worthI have no shares in DHP - but i'll try to give you , well this - About five years ago , I used to be a bus driver , for Blackburn Transport . Life goes up , life goes down - that was a down . Thankfully life has gone up since then . Gotta take what you can get , if you've no job and two kids at Uni. Now , one of the runs was from Darwen ( whitehall ) - started at , i think at 4.50 am at whitehall ( which meant i had to be up at 3.00am to drive to whitebirk depot , check out my double decker - fuel /lights etc ) then drive to whitehall via the M65 , then start picking up East Lancs Coachbuilders employees - straight down the main drag - fast - drop them off at 5.30 am on the whitebirk estate - near the coffee van , so they could eat ( and sober up ) , and clock on for 6.00 am . Let's be truthful here - they were all big thugs , ( including apparantly ex-cons ) who didn't give a sh*t , and their personal hygiene , well i'll leave that to your imagination . And ...if they didn't have their bus fare....well , do you really think I was going to throw them off ? Now , I still have a number of mates , who do virtually the same run - Difference...these guy's ( probably not the same guys ) take a pride in their job - They actually enjoy going to work Because - to quote a mate ( bus driver ) - they are treated well - appreciated - apparantly there are apprentice-ships available , yes , we are talking about training - properly . Hope that helps ! |
Posted at 01/5/2008 10:21 by leighbarton WD - you've left it a bit late to scare people out of their shareholdings! Not sure Stanley will put the screws on DHP - he ahs interests in both camps, but more importantly with his interests in TAN and others he will not want to be seen to be screwing the City. We'll just have to wait and see however as there is precious little we can do in this stage of the proceedings.Looking at this from a business perspective it makes perfect sense and the new group will be in an excellent position to take on the incumbents for new fuel efficient bus fleets. Just a question of who gets what from the deal into that bright future! |
Posted at 28/4/2008 16:25 by jm barrie100 Darwem owns Optare??? Roy Stanley owns 100% of Optare, 51% of DHP %. I can join the dots, but at this minute in time unless I have missed the RNS announcement, DHP does not own Optare. |
Posted at 16/4/2008 13:55 by fugwit New to this thread so thanks to all particularly MTG for a great read. Not in yet but like the story so far.Would anyone like to hazard a guess to the following Q's. If DHP start developing their own chassis what effect will this have on margin, i.e. if buying in from scania etc they should currently be benefiting from some of scania's economies of scale. Can they produce chassis themselves and maintain or improve current margins. If I understand correctly Optare already produce their own chassis so a merger of the two would answer Q1, might it be the reason for the Optare purchase? (I will try to look at competitors tonight to see if they are outsourcing chassis production). Excuse the circumlocution, Q2. If there is a merger between dhp & optare would anyone like to hazard a guess at savings to be made across the two companies? After a brief look, it would appear dhp has a pretax margin of approx 8% so even a small %age gain through cost savings should have a decent effect. Fingers crossed for some profit taking soon to let me in (sorry). Many thanks. |
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