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[pembury] 21/9/2015 17:39

Agree nobody has a clue so why bother

[sos100] 21/9/2015 17:36

Pembury-you should check out the Oxus gold thread, lost count on the amount of people that turned up this year with there own predictions....

and possible agendas...

Didn't make much difference but absolute waste of energy

[pembury] 21/9/2015 17:20

Give it a rest with all your 'predictions' rosannan cheers
I can sniff a wee agenda

[pug151] 21/9/2015 15:56

Amicable seems a little far fetched.

[stephen1946] 21/9/2015 15:39

I don't believe it is so much that Debbiegee is in any sort of hurry, the way International deals are stacking up, ROI seem to be sweetening all-comers to invest in ROI, asap.

I think the ROI will want to see the back of Churchill as soon as can be arranged, black marks in, International industrial circles are extremely bad news and have a habit of becoming expensive. Emerging economies such as ROI need friendly investment and co-operation, there must not be the slightest hint of any corruption.

For me, in a completely unscientific way, it all comes down to an amicable, out of court settlement. Just a question of when.

[daddy warbucks] 21/9/2015 11:32

This time they appear to be asking questions to be answered at the first pre trial submission.However this is also in PO 20.......The Parties shall submit simultaneously their cost submissions within three weeks after the second post-hearing briefs. They may then comment on the other Party's submission within two weeks.I suppose what I am trying to say is, it could drag on if the parties want it to!

[daddy warbucks] 21/9/2015 11:24

This was the timetable of events to the last jurisdiction hearing.May 8, 2013 The Tribunal holds a pre-hearing organizational meeting with the parties by telephone conference.The Tribunal issues Procedural Order No. 6 concerning the organization of the hearing on jurisdiction.May 9, 2013 The Claimants file a supplemental memorial on the merits.May 13, 2013 - May 14, 2013 The Tribunal holds a hearing on jurisdiction in Singapore.May 28, 2013 The Tribunal issues Procedural Order No. 7 concerning procedural matters.June 11, 2013 Each party files a statement of costs.July 22, 2013 The Tribunal poses questions to the parties.August 23, 2013 Each party files answers to the questions posed by the Tribunal on July 22, 2013.August 30, 2013 Each party files observations on the other party's answers of August 23, 2013.February 24, 2014 The Tribunal issues two decisions on jurisdiction.

[debbiegee] 21/9/2015 10:46

Link to PO20 from the ISCID website

Rossaman

I only see dates 12/10/15 and 9/11/15 for supplying papers so I had thought they would have all papers in hand by then ?
Are you assuming that this will lead to more questions and paper providing ?

[as you stated in an above post that they would not have all of the paperwork in front of them by December ]

[debbiegee] 20/9/2015 19:04

Many seem to be thinking Jan for news so could just as easily be Dec or Feb.
Then there is always the surprise element :-)

[patviera] 19/9/2015 15:49

Thx RossWhen are we likely to hear back from the recent hearing?

[patviera] 19/9/2015 11:09

Thank you daddy

[daddy warbucks] 19/9/2015 10:54

patvieraI think the odds of a 'reasonable settlement' must be quite high, otherwise Churchill will continue with the ICSID route.Obviously there is a chance that the tribunal would not favour Churchill in its deliberations, but from what we have seen, I doubt they would lose all.Having said that, stranger things have happened.As financial commentators normally say, "Not one for Widows and Orphans", but a good bet in any case.

[patviera] 19/9/2015 10:32

DebbieYou really think what's said on here is going to have any effect on the negotiations?? Wow I'm shocked.Which number post should I go to on the other thread as most of it is made up of posters throwing mud at each other?So what in your opinion are the odds of getting a reasonable settlement or do you not want to put your neck on the line and make any predictions?

[patviera] 18/9/2015 20:16

StephenI wasn't asking you so best to shut up