Cineworld Share Discussion Threads

[spectoacc] 30/1/2021 08:15

Every transaction has two parts - a sell and a buy, or a buy and a sell. There is no difference. Every single sell needs a buy to match it.

Isn't rocket science, you'd think Elon might get it.

[williamcooper104] 29/1/2021 22:43

They've stopped margin trading and liquidated positions without cleared funds - normally you can trade as soon as you sell a stock but when you do you are trading on your brokers liquidity, RH can't take that risk with the capital/liquidity it has hence why it's raised $1bn convertible Issue is trading on a "free" platform, part owned by a huge HF traderRobinhood is owned by the sherif of Nottingham

[srpactive] 29/1/2021 21:55

US regulators side with Reddit. Stopping reddit investors
buying is wrong, they do not limit the hedge funds selling do they?

[srpactive] 29/1/2021 21:01

Completely agree Mr Bailey boe stated shorters should stop.

Different finding law breaking companies but it has just gone
to anything that rises. Now silly private investors who are
helping the billionaire fund managers fill their accounts,
do not forget to dock your cap and grovel to them whilst
you are doing it. I hope the US movement gets momentum over
here and skin the swines empty. Then go into their houses
and sell them and their belongings, as it is permitted to
sell something you do not own apparently, an eye for an eye.

Yes high risk, no wonder with shorters around, closed
more today, get this back to 200p and help companies survive.

dyor

[zaxarobal] 29/1/2021 18:56

u can't sell houses u don't ownu can't sell cars u don't ownbut u *can* sell stock u don't own!?this is bs – shorting is a scamlegal only for vestigial reasons

[clocktower] 29/1/2021 17:07

High Risk!! LOL - I would suggest that the stock is little better than junk bonds in the present climate but I cannot see it becoming the Gamestop of UK companies.

[lthtrust] 29/1/2021 17:01

Hedge funds and other funds need to manage risk on behalf of their clients. It is in the name !! They want to participate in the potential growth of a company whilst at the same time limiting their downside risk.
Cine is, as many posters here realise, a very high risk long term investment.

[srpactive] 29/1/2021 15:03

L

No it is a problem and needs stopping, if you need to hedge
everything you are unsure of your position.

MS increasing from below 3% to over 5%, GS increasing too.

dyor

[lthtrust] 29/1/2021 14:35

Shorting can be and often is used as a hedging tool by institutional investors. Retail investors appear to be getting too emotional about what is often a business proposition based on risk assessment. The instituations will have to rely more on the futures market to hedge their portfolios against risk.

[williamcooper104] 29/1/2021 14:03

The scam is more "free" brokerage accounts selling your trading data to HF traders

[williamcooper104] 29/1/2021 14:02

Metro was shorted because of risky loans and mis reporting their solvency to the regulator by classifying buy to let/commercial loans as regular resi mortgages I've been long of stocks that have been short attacked; with shorts making false allegations (eg MW on BUR) - it's not fun. But equally every case of mismanagement and outright fraud (giggling as remembering Enron screaming about shorts, and RBS too) involves management screaming about shorts

[srpactive] 29/1/2021 11:16

Talk on the bbc that the fsa are looking the shorting practice
as uk companies that are doing ok just get shorted back down.
This just plays into the hands of anyone who wants to buy uk
companies. Just look at the ftse 100 twenty years moved nowhere
and the dow the US equivalent from 12000 to 30000.
Time the UK stood up for itself and got the value of UK companies
much higher so they are not bought on the cheap, just look at
pe's of US companies and the equivalent UK.
Cineworld mentioned on the programme.

Another one of mine entain pe half of the US equivalent and entain is
as everyone knows number one.

dyor high risk.

active

[srpactive] 29/1/2021 07:52

Yes shorts down to 6.72% down from over 10% on shorttracker,
lets hope they close completely and stop ruining companies
just because they hit hard times. These hedge fund managers
with their billions holidaying and rubbing peoples noses
in it is not going to get them far when the c19 financial
issues really kick in. Robinhood quite ironic, what goes
around comes around. Maybe they should list all the shorting
firms on the internet that have ruined companies and jobs for
the little man.It is different unearthing corruption but not
just hard times. TIME TO STOP THE SHORT MARKET.

dyoor high risk

[sphere25] 28/1/2021 17:29

So five shorting funds have now reduced their short positions here (as well as four in PSON). That is definitely a sign of fear from a short term viewpoint, post the well publicised events in the US. You can see how the liquidity and ordinary sellers have been there to allow them to close reasonable amounts without causing a stratospheric rise.

If the short position was double and more, it could have caused a few fireworks here. It's actually a shame we don't have a GameStop in the UK (or anything close) because I sure as hell would have been on that bandwagon to squeeze the shorts.

Hey, a trade is a trade! :-)

Should be interesting to see if the shorts cover the whole positions now or whether it's just a short term risk exposure exercise.

It's a nice one to nip in and out for quick day trades but CINE continues to remain beyond my risk tolerance as an investment.

Interesting times though!

All imo
DYOR

[srpactive] 28/1/2021 14:47

These reddit lot seem to be doing a little mischief.

They are ruining the shorters as the shorters have ruined businesses.

I suppose if the hedge funds are ramming their wealth down peoples
throats with their billions, this will upset many people, maybe
they have had enough and are about to bite back. Once this gets some
world wide momentum it could do the job they aim to do.

A lot of people do not know about shorting and the more that do the
more they can see how to make some money in these hard times.
Look for highly shorted companies for starters.

dyor high risk.

[srpactive] 28/1/2021 14:34

Jangho increase to 13.33% as the price rises, very interesting,

dyor high risk.

[danb45] 28/1/2021 11:51

If it goes bust more workers will lose their jobs, make your mind up ffs

[smartie6] 28/1/2021 11:26

When they were awarding themselves big bonus awards if targets hit, did they think about all the workers they let go?

The sooner this goes bust the better imho.

86p this morning to 73p. When will we see 63p?

[smartie6] 28/1/2021 11:17

Nice to see this dog sheeeeeet share going back to where it belongs.
FFS, trying to ride on the coattails of GameStop and AMC. Lol.

[williamcooper104] 28/1/2021 10:08

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