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In discussions surrounding Chrysalis Investments Limited (CHRY), investors highlighted the company's current valuation in relation to its net asset value (NAV), particularly in light of comparisons to AFRM. An investor noted that CHRY is trading at a significant discount of 33%, which raises the prospect of a potential upside as valuations stabilize. The sentiment appears to be cautiously optimistic, with references to Klarna's impending IPO, anticipated to take place in April, which could serve as a catalyst for CHRY's stock performance.
Further conversation focused on the estimated valuation of Klarna, with some investors speculating on various figures, including a market cap of around $15 billion to $16 billion. Craigso emphasized the importance of visibility on Klarna's value, suggesting that even if CHRY does not sell its stake in Klarna during the IPO process, an initial spike in Klarna’s share price would positively influence CHRY’s valuation. Comments like, "the real importance is visibility on value," encapsulate the sentiment that understanding the underlying assets is crucial for current shareholders. Investors remain keenly aware that developments in the fintech sector, particularly the performance of Klarna, could have a direct impact on CHRY's market standing in the near future.
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Chrysalis Investments Limited has been actively executing its share buyback program, which was announced on September 26, 2024. Over the course of a week, from February 5 to February 11, 2025, the company repurchased a total of 2.5 million ordinary shares. These transactions were conducted through Deutsche Numis, with the average weighted prices per share over the respective purchase dates ranging from £1.024123 to £1.05428.
Following these recent purchases, Chrysalis now holds 41,183,261 shares in treasury, with a total of 553,967,153 ordinary shares outstanding, excluding those held as treasury shares. This strategic initiative aims to return value to shareholders and may impact the overall market perception of the company, as buybacks often signal confidence in the company's financial health and future prospects.
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Citywire....Bargain hunters Asset Value Investors has been increasing its stake in the £856m trust, confirming to Citywire that its position had risen from 10.5% in mid-July to 11.4% this week. The discount narrowed to 43%, which wasn't quite enough to make the 'expensive' table. |
Wondering if there was significant monetisations and under the capital allocation policy whether they might look at premium tender offers to accelerate capital return."The London-based trust, which invests in technology and finance startups, said the proposed capital allocation policy sets out a framework for more disciplined use of its capital. Consequently, Chrysalis "will aim at all times to maintain a prudent cash reserve" with current guidance around GBP50 million.Chrysalis said once that requirement is satisfied, it will prioritise distributions to its shareholders and currently intends to repurchase up to 15% of its share capital. It may then seek authority to continue buybacks until GBP100 million has been returned.Finally, Chrysalis aim to distribute up to 25% of net cash profits on realisations to shareholders, in order to "balance its capital allocation between further distributions...and portfolio investments". |
2,000 Workers Gone: Klarna Is First Major Company To Unleash Mass Layoffs Thanks To AI |
Oakbloke , hot off the press......Don't CHRY because it's over£50m H1 Adj. operating Income for pre-IPO holding KlarnaThe Oak BlokDear reader"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened" - Dr SeussToday's article picture is a tribute to the great Theodor Seuss Geisel (Dr. Seuss) and hopefully you can recognise which famous food condiments inspired this picture!I'm not sure what connection there could be with either the Fund Chrysalis, or its holding Klarna. Our PM might say to his new best mate "es ist nicht klar"CHRY's holding Klarna (valued 30/6/24 at £100.3m) announced revenue and profit progress in its 1H2024 update. Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.Pledge your supportRevenue was up 16% year on year. Gross Profit up 22%. Operating expense is static (excluding technology and product development it's down by 10% actually*) so adjusted operating income moves from a £33.9 loss in 1H23 to a £50m profit in 1H24 - an £84m improvement!*a 10% drop suggests the much vaunted investment in AI is translating into savings in "the real world". Further evidenced that revenue per employee grew an ASTONISHING 73% in y-o-y to 1H24.?In fact at net profit level, a loss of -£24.7m in 1H24 from -£155.4m in 1H23 illustrates the strong trajectory and improvement year on year.Klarna's CEO comments:Klarna's massive global network of consumers and merchants is expanding rapidly, with continued success in the US as revenue grows 38% YoY in H124. Over 68k new merchant partnerships were established, supporting further engagement from our consumers, and driving strong revenue growth of 27% in H124. This led to SEK 1tn in payment volume through our network in the last 12 monthsThe Oak Bloke had a little shopping experience at Klarna and was gobsmacked to find a "Google-esque" experience. This is referred to in Klarna's Interim Report.?Rather than think of Klarna as purely a buy now pay later experience it's actually much more. It's a way to find what you want as a shopper. I would encourage you to watch this video to understand the powerful dual online and bricks and mortar shopping experiences Klarna has managed to create.?Klarna speak to "becoming ubiquitous". It speaks to a developing ecosystem. That means working with what were once competitors - Payment Service Providers (PSPs) for example. Strategic agreements with Adobe and WorldPay are examples where they've "lost" the gateway role but embraced thousands of merchants who use those PSPs - so overall gained far more than what they've conceded. All the major PSPs appear to be available for a merchant to "plug and play".?The ubiquity for customers: The evidence is that once people start to Klarna they keep going and return for more. This is (Klarna say) due to a combination of saving time, money and assurance. Assurance means fraud protection, hassle-free returns, and delivery tracking..... all in one place.??The ubiquity for merchants: The evidence is also that once a merchant list on Klarna that the benefits mean increasing revenue retention, and growth. Klarna now has over 575k merchants, and that number continues to grow. In the past 12 months, it added over 68k new merchants and expanded strategic partnerships with iconic everyday-use partners such as Voi, Google, and Uber. The deal with Uber is to power its payments portal, with a buy now & pay at the end of the month (when you get paid) for customers..... smart.But Uber aren't the only ones - Klarna also struck a deal with travel giant Expedia/Hotels.com too.?This 5 year view is fasctinating too. Income has increased by ~2.5X, and loans accounts for a portion of that income and these are ~3X over 5 years. What I find fascinating is the 5X growth in "deposits from the public". These exceed "loans to the public" in FY24! Also the average duration of Klarna's credit portfolio is ~40 days. This means the company can recycle its capital 9 times per year (365 days / 40 days = 9.125). Assuming a 1.5% net transaction margin and 30% pre-tax margin, each $100 would generate $100 x 1.5% x 30% margin x 9 loans per year = $4.You imagine loans to be a huge cost to Klarna (or Klarna's merchant). But no. Actually deposits and the Net Interest Margin, make loans profitable, actually! And capital light with CET1 ratio of 14.9%, that's as strong as a major bank.??VALUATIONCHRY owns 1.11% of Klarna so if a $20bn/£16bn price is achieved, the result for CHRY is a substantial £74.80m uplift and a £174.80m realisation.CHRY's £100.3m valuation (as at 30/06/24) implies a £9bn valuation. Klarna's 1H24 revenue is £1bn so £2bn annualised. A £9bn valuation is 4.5X sales. A peer for Klarna is Affirm and its current revenue to (Nasdaq-listed) valuation is 5X sales (but was a much higher multiple previously).?Affirm has similar revenue growth to Klarna but isn't as profitable.Assuming 5X is a fair multiple (which seems quite conservative) and furthermore assuming Klarna continues to grow at 27% then in FY2025 based on revenue growth to £2.5bn and expectations of a 27% growth to £3.2bn then we neatly arrive to £16bn.But isn't the Klarna story a little bit like Ebay (and Paypal)? They got divorced in 2015. Until that point weren't they "an ecosystem" and weren't they "ubiquitous"? Back in 2009 they achieved $8.7bn revenue adjusted for inflation which is approximately £3.2bn today. My FY26 expectation of Klarna. Back then a $30.5bn valuation adjusted for inflation is £34bn today or 377% of CHRY's valuation.?EBay revenue and profit "back in the day".Of course you could point to the $2.39bn net profit Ebay also achieved in 2009, which is £2.7bn adjusted for inflation today and tell me I'm over egging the pudding. But with another two years could Klarna achieve that? It would require a "flywheel" effect in growth and a lower number feels "nailed on" given the £84m improvement to the bottom line in the past 12 months.But compared to Affirm leaking between $0.5bn - $1bn a year and forecast to do so in both 2024 and 2025, the 5X multiple is a little harsh.So while I will settle for concluding the forward prospects for Klarna feel to be "at least" a £16bn IPO, I also believe the 1H24 results demonstrate how the "ubiquity" of Klarna's platform and services tap into a "Bricks vs Clicks" world in a way I have never seen Ebay do. I'm probably the last person you'd call an "avid shopper", but I can see how Klarna addresses the world in a uniquely clever and nuanced way while creating an ecosystem where retailers and brands thrive, consumers are compelled to return and that ubiquity is worth something.-Conclusio |
Buying significant number of shares at a current discount to nav is very value accretive irrespective of and enhancing any other portfolio news. The more equity they can retire at anything like the current discount the better..and that alone should help narrow the discount. Roll on material buybacks. |
I don't think we will need the buyback as there should be enough news flow over the next 12 months to keep this ticking up. |
Just need the liquidity to begin a buyback and the discount to NAV will rapidly close. |
At 50% discount to NAV cash conversion of stakes is a massive positive |
There is some idea from the oak bloke updated today.It seems CHRY already has jumped the valuation up to near where the rumours take it..so maybe not material value increase but a big conversion to cash if it happens.https://theo |
Going to 🚀 |
How much of Featurespace do Chrysalis own? |
Currently sitting on the books at £72 m. Will either prove the 50% increase over the previous period or show it up as a pump to mitigate on paper the Wefox write down.For management credibility hopefully leaning towards the former. |
This sounds promising... |
Interesting the jump in valuation for Revolut see GROW today.Big positive for fintech values generally ?Where might that leave Klarna and Starling Bank valuations both on the IPO runway?https://www.c |
The Times: Employees at Revolut are set to share a $500m windfall by selling stock in the financial technology company in a deal that values the business at $45bn |
Wefox executing restructuring to focus on profitable growth areas.https://www.bo |
With BOE rate cuts to stimulate economic growth for Labour TAX rises the macro outlook is the polar opposite of what we have had during the rate hike cycle. We may not go back to zero but we are on the right track and there is upside to VC style and the wider PE market. The bottom is likely to have passed and we are sat on a 44% discount. |
Chrysalis Investments Limited ("Chrysalis" or the "Company") |
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Maybe I am being too harsh on Starling. What I am trying to say I guess is the 50 million they are receiving would be best used to buy back stock now. That in turn would push up the concentration of Starling in the fund buying the stock back way below its carried value. But you just know that 50 million going straight up the wall with zero benefit. |
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Is this throwing good money after bad at wefox? |
Type | Ordinary Share |
Share ISIN | GG00BGJYPP46 |
Sector | Finance Services |
Bid Price | 103.60 |
Offer Price | 104.00 |
Open | 104.80 |
Shares Traded | 521,426 |
Last Trade | 11:20:38 |
Low - High | 103.60 - 105.20 |
Turnover | 46.67M |
Profit | 39.22M |
EPS - Basic | 0.0659 |
PE Ratio | 15.75 |
Market Cap | 623.72M |
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