C4x Discovery Share Discussion Threads

[astorcourt] 22/12/2020 13:34

rumors in the city bars of a deal

[astorcourt] 21/12/2020 16:40

strong recovery, on a rough day.

[alloa2003] 21/12/2020 15:25

Interesting to see the buyers coming back in. This new Covid variant sounds like the perfect challenge for C4XD.

[astorcourt] 18/12/2020 20:21

26p is high for the year, so next week could be interesting.
This one seems to have risen quietly, by stealth.

[alloa2003] 18/12/2020 00:38

Again it looks like something is happening - hope we get an announcement this time as we have been here many times before. That said, it would be uncomfortable if a huge deal was announced just days after a few hundred thousand cheap options were awarded to directors?

[t0pgrader] 17/12/2020 18:00

R Griffiths increases his holding to 19.2% (18.7%). No mug punter.

[astorcourt] 17/12/2020 11:53

on the move again

[amaretto1] 17/12/2020 07:18

What's the market Cap now ?

[alloa2003] 16/12/2020 14:05

Sorry, I perhaps wasnt clear. Looking at the company from afar it looks like nothing has changed. However I appreciate these things take time, etc so we are probably akin to a swan. Looks like nothing is happening on the surface but underneath there is huge movement.

[1aconic] 16/12/2020 13:57

I know and also agree to an extent. At that price it's free money, however little. A larger award at a higher price could have had the same result. It's not like they've been given a massive gift but you're right it could probably have been structured in a better way for shareholders.

You say there's nothing additional to show for the money - if Clive Dix is to be believed, there is plenty of additional data to show for it and that's what's marketed to potential partners. So whilst there's nothing tangible in the accounts, there *may* be lots of additional value hiding in the background. Fingers crossed.

[alloa2003] 16/12/2020 13:26

While I agree to a certain extent - the whole concept of options is to incentise people. Fixing the option price at current levels is not what they were meant for. Lets not forget the directors were still receiving their salaries while the shares were falling. They havent suffered as yet.

You say it isnt much of a reward for a 5 fold increase in the share price. Well it was £1 a share just over 2 years ago. So I hardly think a return to those levels justifies a "reward for success". Especially when you realise they have burnt the INDV down payment and a chunk of other fund raisings, with nothing additional to show for the money, as yet.

If the directors deliver as they say they can, then these shares will be well north of a pound in the short to medium term. Time to deliver.

[1aconic] 16/12/2020 11:06

Yeah, they're cheap but they haven't been given huge volume. The other options they all have all seem to be around 90p and above. From here, developments that drive the price above £1 would make them worth 160k each on these options. That's not really an excessive bonus relative to a five fold share price increase (albeit from the current levels rather than those of 2018).

[alloa2003] 15/12/2020 12:40

There will be a committee of directors in charge of these option awards - supposed to be impartial I believe. They are supposed to be there to look after the interests of shareholders, not dish out cheap options.

[alloa2003] 14/12/2020 21:44

Are the directors taking us for fools? Where is the incentive to push the share price? The exercise price should have been 50p minimum. If all is good behind the scenes, as they keep telling us, then 50p should not be a problem.

As a % of the share capital it is irrelevant but it is the principle of institutions and now directors taking advantage of the relatively depressed share price (compared to 12 months ago).

[amaretto1] 14/12/2020 20:59

It's all a big take .... imo

[davemac3] 14/12/2020 19:59

the options should have an exercise price at least double the grant price

[amaretto1] 14/12/2020 19:33

Given a stack load of more shares !

[alloa2003] 14/12/2020 12:27

If the share price can hold above 23ish then its very bullish for the chart - potential breakout. However, we have been here before. Need some news to support any significant move upwards.

[alloa2003] 14/12/2020 12:25

Something seems to be stirring here - interesting.

[ayl30] 14/12/2020 11:52

See post 336, quite a lot behind the scenes it would appear

[astorcourt] 14/12/2020 11:36

whats going on....?

[amaretto1] 10/12/2020 16:56

Ill keep talking it down for u longs ...Every time i do, it goes up .. lol

[alloa2003] 10/12/2020 14:30

Just watched his interview - if you didn't know better you would say the market has got this one horribly wrong. However, the proof is in the pudding and C4XD needs to start announcing deals soon.

[alloa2003] 10/12/2020 14:19

They might as well have reprinted the statement from last year - exactly the same. Jam tomorrow. Starting to lose patience with this one now even though I believe the long term potential is huge.