Bt Share Discussion Threads

[thanatos abysss] 16/4/2024 15:18

gfsdfg

British businesses risk being starved of investment as pension funds sell off assets to meet a wave of retirement claims, Goldman Sachs has warned.

Analysts at the Wall Street bank have sounded the alarm over investment levels flatlining in the UK after research found final salary schemes are selling almost as many British stocks as other pension funds are buying.

This has meant that UK-listed companies are receiving just £500m in net investment from pension funds each year.

Goldman Sachs said defined benefit (DB) schemes – which pay a fixed income but are largely closed to new savers – are selling £2.5bn of shares per quarter to pay out pensions to retirees.

At the same time, defined contribution (DC) pensions – which do not guarantee a specific income but depend on the performance of financial markets – are buying £3bn of equities over the same period.

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 15:16

numbers sooo last month

[thanatos abysss] 16/4/2024 15:10

British businesses risk being starved of investment as pension funds sell off assets to meet a wave of retirement claims, Goldman Sachs has warned.

Analysts at the Wall Street bank have sounded the alarm over investment levels flatlining in the UK after research found final salary schemes are selling almost as many British stocks as other pension funds are buying.

This has meant that UK-listed companies are receiving just £500m in net investment from pension funds each year.

Goldman Sachs said defined benefit (DB) schemes – which pay a fixed income but are largely closed to new savers – are selling £2.5bn of shares per quarter to pay out pensions to retirees.

At the same time, defined contribution (DC) pensions – which do not guarantee a specific income but depend on the performance of financial markets – are buying £3bn of equities over the same period.

[smurfy2001] 16/4/2024 15:04

Think we need any tell sid, but for BT shares.

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:54

i remember the good auld qe days when you could just load up ftse at -1, -1.5%

now though, -2% seems a bit expensive haha

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:52

back later to see if it was just a few gerbils or a printer low on ink

[isis] 16/4/2024 14:50

Without the Pension Funds and very few PI's in the market there is nothing holding UK Stocks up.

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:49

Beautiful day. Think il do a 10K cycle

[isis] 16/4/2024 14:43

Looks like the Yanks are in a Bad Mood so they give us a Kicking! ;)

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:41

I shut short now and see what they plan 7795s

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:40

Vlad The Impaler - 16 Apr 2024 - 10:02:05 - 50318 of 50349 BT - Where next ? - BT.A
Be interesting to see if they feel the need to QEase ftse just sub 7800

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yes lets see if bother wasting printer ink just under it lol

[thanatos abysss] 16/4/2024 14:39

the dv has said anyone who posts 1000 useless posts of ignored drivel all day every day is heading for the mincer

i guess thats me II et al

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:28

The financial crisis hence quantitative easing, also made a lot of dim knuts look smart for a while. But as is clearly evident now, all a bunch of gerbils

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:23

The financial crisis saved uk 100 shares for a few years. Without it, they would nearly all be 1p today. funds would have left a decade ago

[thanatos abysss] 16/4/2024 14:21

no one listens to us II

all our 50 puppets are ignored
and laughed at

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:15

BT listed around 1999?

1999 to 2009 - constant falls

2009 quantatitive easing 'buy any share' rise

2016 to present - constant falls

it seems to be one of those that never went north, apart from a near risk free any equity period

it's now trading back around 'buy any equity' price, but with no QE around, no free money, and funds doing a mass exodus, rather than mass buying

Seems it never actually had any perceived investor value of its own in 25 years?

lol

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:10

Its funny you mention dip, as i look at BT share price of many years

[netcurtains] 16/4/2024 14:06

OK but still....
if BT goes sub 100 I'm definitely buying more again....
But not buying any more in 105-100 range....
Burnt already...
It just keeps falling and falling and falling...
Anyone would think OpenReach is going bust....

Its bonkers....

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 14:04

No good comes from today. If it goes sub 102.85s into US, its a tanker

if it holds that price into close, its an opening tanker

awful

[institutional investments] 16/4/2024 13:51

Still think the shorters feel something else is here though and the AUM across many funds seem to agree