Hyper, this was done with onlinevideoeditor (captevate) 7 years ago -->
You might recall eva had vertical, I don't think any video editor in the world doesn't have vertical.
As you say, code tidy up maybe and a refresh. Hopefully they are all on the same page now. I'm more hopeful that IM understands what he is doing now. The move to enterprise was exactly the wrong move but that's easy to say now, sometimes people need to make a mistake to find a path forward. Without IM, the company would probably be dead. |
Interesting
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Hyper
There is no money in mobile phone editing and is not playing to our technology strength
Mobile upload into elevate is highly likely at some stage maybe through a partnership?
I recently bought some extra bits that turns my iPhone into a pretty impressive film camera for not a lot of money
Amazing
Mobile phone camera technology for filming
Cloud video editing
AI tools
Cloud distribution
Creator economy powerhouse |
GB
That can be done now in elevate, up to the creator to make use of the whole frame.
But the mobile phone viewer has to hold the phone horizontally which seems challenging for some! |
GB904150
But if your canvas is displayed on a mobile phone in portrait mode you want the image to make the most of that portrait mode and occupy it all.
Best keeping the two systems separate. Mobile users want to be able to edit on mobile. If elevate.io can do both, which I'm sure it can, we will have a massive user base. And if you can edit landscape and portrait with frame accuracy on all platforms the I think £60 share price is on the cards particularly if we introduce a Spark 🙂 |
A question about vertical video (VV).
People shoot VV because it's fast and practical and it gives an 'on the fly', spontaneous vibe.
But it renders quite horribly in players because you have portrait format on a landscape canvas.
The two sides of that landscape canvas are then ugly. Either black bars or, platforms will do a blur of the main image either side to avoid black bars.
But what if VV could be better? Why waste that space?
For example - rather than splashing subtitles over the main image, why not use the black space?
Or use that black space to add your text / explainers / icons / links?
Just seems a waste of that canvas otherwise.
Perhaps elevate could innovate with that as they bring VV to the platform?
Make VV great again!
Any thoughts? |
It's interesting that going vertical is in development. I mean that it's for quite a different audience and is really designed around mobile phone users, such users would expect elevate.io for mobile. Me for one, so I can upload direct from my phone.
So will elevate.io come out for mobile use when vertical is introduced. That would certainly explain the 18 months of development time away.
If that happens we will totally destroy competitors. share price will be £60 not £6 |
Cyber
Interesting |
Cabi
No probably waiting for some tick up strength
Or wait until next month after results
Have bought about 80k in the last few weeks |
I've noticed the last couple of days that I can sell a lot more than I could sell for a long time ... For weeks I could never get a quote to sell more than 100k (sometimes 50k) but now I can sell 500k... Seems hopeful...? |
Thanks Hyper - so I'll go with makes sense to get the results done before they are away travelling. |
4.475 offered. |
Results were 5 March last year, so same time this year, well within a day! |
So much for the results to be delayed to June argument.
In fact - aren't they a bit early?
SXSW is an annual event running from 7 to 14 March 2025.
Either it is because something will be announced prior or at SXSW or they just want to get it done as they will busy. |
NickB, you bought your 1k worth yet? |
NickB
The browser side will be java script and html5, so no big deal for frontend development these days. Agree server side is probably more complex, but Blackbird have worked with AWS for years and cloud based big data management and integration is not new. What's taking so long? I suppose testing.
I just feel there is more going on in that 18 month timeline. |
Adding features should be a lot faster than building the core of the product which is what we are currently seeing. |
Sorry if last post sounds negative. It's not suppose to be. Just attempting to understand what has happened with all the time since the start of December 2023. |
Hyper
elevate hasn’t been ported it’s been built from scratch.
Short term pain for long term gain
What is very obvious to me using elevate and watching it’s development is the quality of engineering and design thought that has gone into elevate
It Just Works
Super important as our better featured competitor is finding |
I produced this video almost 13 years ago in 2012 using Blackbirds Clesh.
Clesh worked in the cloud and via a web browser.
So what is going on at Blackbird? I mean the technology in elevate.io is not new and porting the frontend browser stuff from Clesh or Forscene to the existing elevate.io I just can't believe really needed 18 months.
I'm expecting very big surprises over the next 4 weeks. Like a brand new elevate.io which I really hope is in development parallel to the one currently visible to the public.
I really just can't get my head around the reason for the delay in implementation of features which were available on Forscene and Clesh over a decade ago, let alone what's available on Blackbirds existing product at
Is everything that has happened over the past 18 months just a trial for something far bigger on the horizon? What else can explain this time scale conundrum ? |
Because Professional != Pixellated |
Yes Vertical video is coming in The near term but in the meantime just re format it at the end, how hard is that. |
The interesting thing about short form video channels is the speed at which professionals are taking over.
We're seeing more and more precisely edited highly optimised short clips that are made to 'feel' amateur, but they are far from it. Commercial video, made to look like the guy/girl next door made them, but in fact produced by teams of professionals.
And it's not just TikTok. It's FB, Insta, TG, YT Shorts, Pinterest.. the list goes on. For many marketing teams, vertical short form video is the only game in town, and it's no surprise it headed this way, because these channels bring in huge commercial revenues.
Only my opinion, but I think vertical is being held back for now, as part of the strategy. Get all the ducks in a row, then release vertical, and immediately see the hockey stick growth they need.
Vertical is coming to elevate, so why anyone would be worrying about it at this stage, I don't know. Make no mistake though, it's going to be huge for elevate. |
Even Nick Lisher admitted that elevate is still unusable for him, without vertical. Both for what he does, and the companies he works with. |
Results 4th March, presentation 5th |
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