“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
Winston Churchill...allegedly. |
haha, me too Hyper Al |
Wow, politics creeping into the BIRD thread.
I'm keeping out of this debate.
Let the BIRD fly and join the doves, |
Yes indeed, the Chinese social control system is nothing but communist totalitarianism.Although I don't suppose those who have suffered under fascist totalitarianism will appreciate the difference...As they say, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely... Hence why democracy is so fragile and has to be protected because it's not the natural order of human affairs (human nature is greed, fear, ignorance and violence).Wow we've got a bit philosophical on here eh LOLBack to Bird maybe. |
cyberbub, I absolutely share your concerns. There is also the problem of assigning value to goods and services when they are produced in this future low cost environment. The Chinese experience is one of combining monetary capital with social capital, essentially conditional supply and rationing based upon behaviour and compliance.
Aka, Marxist totalitarianism. |
If we don't have UBI then who amongst the unemployed will have money to buy the goods and services provided by the AI Lords? A classic labour-based economy is unsustainable where AI and increasingly sophisticated robots can essentially (eventually..not tomorrow but you can see it coming) do 90% of what humans can do today. And once work has been taken away, there are only so many capuccinos people can buy and streaming movies they can watch. |
HB
AI is getting a lot of input from ‘people’ so that’s a concern.
We also have a birth rate collapse
And we are going multi planetary |
Beethoven’s Pastoral was never the same. |
It would seem that at least three people disagree with you HB. |
hb.
part c of your post:-
Q. Once we reach sustainability, what is the fairest system of organising ourselves for the benefit of both the Earth and humanity?
A. Soylent Green - 1973
;-) |
In that case I don't think you understand how AI works. |
And the answers will depend upon who trained the AI. |
Questions to ask AI are...
What population of humans on Earth is sustainable?
How do we reach that number in such a way as to cause the least pain, and how long will it take?
Once we reach sustainability, what is the fairest system of organising ourselves for the benefit of both the Earth and humanity? |
cyberbub, do you think there will be strings attached to the UBI and if so who will be pulling those strings? It sounds like tyranny either way to me.
Let's hope BIRD gives us the means to rise above it all. |
The difference between AI and previous industrial revolutions (steam, internal combustion energy, computers etc) is that they took away the low-skilled jobs... Whereas AI increasingly takes away the high-skilled jobs, from graphic designers to software coders to radiologists and project managers... And it will mean that the wealth once controlled by graphic design companies and software companies and individual radiologists etc across the entire world will be hoovered up by the small band of ludicrously wealthy individuals that control the AI... The only way to avoid total economic disaster and tyranny is for governments to heavily tax the AI owners (who will still be as rich as Croesus) and redistribute the money as a universal income to the 80-90% who no longer have work... But will governments have the desire or even the ability, when the AI owners and US tech bros control the global political narrative through their social media platforms? |
Thanks Pokerchips and HB |
 I think both sides of the argument are true
Reality is most are Freelance
Let’s say I get booked for 2 weeks to do a great job
With Ai I would certainly save time but now they will only book me for 1 week which means I’m going to have to find another job for the extra week
Realistically over a period of a year my total earnings could be reduced as I’m going to have to spend more time looking for work (that’s the making a living fear).
The flip side is there should be an explosion of more work if the final product is so much cheaper.
The side of the line we are on with elevate is the size of the editing market will be exploding even more due to ease of access, just a web browser and simple computer and importantly all the pain points managed away in the Cloud
Generative Ai brings extra creative power to the editing platform and turbo charges the creators ability to do things that would have been impossible or very challenging
Ai to do boring time consuming project management
Freeing you up to do more creative work is a big win
and not controversial.
Ai to be a creative partner gives a single creator the resources of a 10 person creative team which is scary if you are one of the 10 people.
This is why a new generation of cloud editing tools like elevate with its plugins such as AI are the only way forward to stay in the game the old software was launched 20-30 years ago, a different world.
Everything is so obvious if you know the history, the battles and the inflection points of events. |
"..Technology takes jobs away from people? "
well..it seems to have created an awful lot of jobs ...in tech...
Tech jobs are often taken by the younger crowd ... with the tech ..taking the jobs from the older crowd...
It is a means of getting into the jobs market for the next generations....create a new world by elimintaing the old |
Ah, but he was being ironic.
Technology takes jobs away from people? Er, yes. That's what it's for. |
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