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Billing Services Group LSE:BILL London Ordinary Share BMG110261044 COM SHS USD0.59446
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 2.20p 0 08:00:00
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
2.10p 2.30p 2.20p 2.20p 2.20p
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 15.59 -6.70 -1.48 6.2

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08/1/201909:03Billing Services with Charts & News3,604
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29/9/200905:15The BILL : Civil Continguencies Bill/Braitain's Patroit Act28

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Billing Services Daily Update: Billing Services Group is listed in the Support Services sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker BILL. The last closing price for Billing Services was 2.20p.
Billing Services Group has a 4 week average price of 2p and a 12 week average price of 1.90p.
The 1 year high share price is 5p while the 1 year low share price is currently 1.80p.
There are currently 280,165,748 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 1,201 shares. The market capitalisation of Billing Services Group is £6,163,646.46.
simon cawkwell: Gentlemen, I am surprised by the share price affect this morning. After all, it was already known that an LEC problem might/would arise. In any event, what is the earnings effect? I just do not know. However, the tnav is still around double the current share price and presumably not merely offers support but renders the stock a buy at up to 6p. Does anybody else propose a different analysis/comment? Simon Cawkwell
someuwin: EK yesterday... "Billing Services (LON:BILL) reports a terrific set of figures and outlook this morning. EPS for YE12/16 were 4 USD cents. That is 3p. The share price is now 5p offer. That is very cheap. Remember: all the disputes with the FTC are settled."
gark: Topvest, why on earth do you still comment? Every time there is a conspiracy theory. They are currently conducting a strategic review which is why they didn't announce guidance. Last time they did that they returned 20p a share. Why would Evil Knievel comment and I quote "Billing Services (LON:BILL) reports a terrific set of figures and outlook this morning. EPS for YE12/16 were 4 USD cents. That is 3p. The share price is now 5p offer. That is very cheap. Remember: all the disputes with the FTC are settled." If there was something fishy going on and put his reputation at risk? Jim Mellon also said this was his only UK buy this year.
topvest: Very odd this company. The Chairman's Statement appears in the Annual Report nearly 3 months after the results and 6 months after the year end. The wording is, in my view, more bullish than the results RNS. That's probably why the share price has gone up today which is good news for holders but all very sloppy. It's all very poor practice and a bit incompetent if you ask me. Why doesn't the Chairman write to shareholders in March rather than putting something out that is obviously newer. Anyone else noticed this? They should be told to communicate properly and do the Chairman's Statement with the results which its what 99% of companies do.
lagosboy: The share price has not been weak of late - it has been around this level since April 2012. The implication of your unsupported view was that once the FTC decision was handed down that the share price would get pasted. With due respect I don't feel that have read too deeply into your post, rather I have addressed the nub of the issue. Anyway, time to move on now and just consider ourselves lucky that BILL was able to get a small dividend away in the meantime.
lagosboy: The key has nothing to do with what is priced in by the City. This is not Vodafone. The share price will only react when the number is known and the future cash flows adjusted. Bill historically had an EBITDA of circa 25% on enhanced revenues - if managements figure below of $886,288 is adopted as a proxy for EBITDA that equates to $3,544,912 of unauthorized billings. To my mind that is the starting figure, it must be based upon something tangible and whether or not the Judge sees fit to add a further penalty one can only speculate. $5 m looks a reasonable number to me. The FTC's $30.1 million damages request reflects amounts billed consumers for the services, minus any refunds previously provided. But Bemporad wrote that figure is "based on the assumption that every consumer who was billed for voicemail charges did not authorize the charge. As shown by the evidence, many customers have in fact authorized the charge, even if they did not use the service." BSG, meanwhile, said any damages imposed should be limited to the amount of its gains, which totaled $886,288. Bemporad found that figure inadequate.
55investor: A fraction ? they received $25 million from memory and they did turn into a respectable company in the end and the price got to 42p high so what if the dot com boom aided the price did that. The fact is in Bill this business throws off cash so anything positive on the settlement front and this share price will soar. There is always some large buys now and again so I think insiders think there will be a positive outcome better gamble than most of the rubbish traded on Aim right now.
lagosboy: gark take a look at PEBI (PortErin)- it is in Jim Mellon stable. Last reported NAV almost 50% below share price - since then there have been meteoric rises in some of the stocks so value / share price gap even wider. DYOR but don't shout about it - as close to free money as I have found.
lagosboy: lawmb Back in 2010 Bill was doing circa $130 million in total revenues. 2 main segments to this, the core business and the enhanced billing revenues - the enhanced billings revenues are the revenues subject to current litigation and were running at circa $ 25 million of total revenues. AT&T made up about $15 million of this and it was hoped that it would be re-captured. It has not been - so all $25 million dropped out leaving a core business generating circa $ 105 million in 2010. That has fallen to a projected $ 75 million for year to 2012.- 28 % decline. This decline is much steeper than most investors had anticipated. The legacy core business will continue to decline year on year - land lines are used by less people and are becoming obsolete. Many investors backed bill for its B2Phone product - it had blue sky potential but it has failed. I have no idea how the Wi-Fi product will do - but it will hopefully replace the core business revenues which will continue to fall away. The run off of the legacy business, unless it declines even more steeply will service the debt and eventually produce a number of years of free cash flow. These cash flows can be discounted and NPV for the share price calculated. Whilst I agree with gark that there is value here, I believe that EV is a totally inappropriate valuation method for this company. Gark is incorrect when he refers to any lawsuit settlement coming out of reserves - he must be an accountant ! Any settlement will be paid for out of the bank and will have a direct bearing of free cash flows, the speed of debt repayment and of course the NPV for the share price. The quantum is both unknown and critical. Gark knows a lot more than me on the history of the legal action - but one thing I would say is that the only predictable thing about lawsuits in the US is their unpredictability.
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