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Best Of The Best Plc LSE:BOTB London Ordinary Share GB00B16S3505 ORD 5P
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  -200.00 -5.88% 3,200.00 27,454 14:25:33
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Travel & Leisure 17.79 4.20 37.51 85.3 301
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Best Of The Best Daily Update: Best Of The Best Plc is listed in the Travel & Leisure sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker BOTB. The last closing price for Best Of The Best was 3,400p.
Best Of The Best Plc has a 4 week average price of 2,800p and a 12 week average price of 2,150p.
The 1 year high share price is 3,520p while the 1 year low share price is currently 465p.
There are currently 9,412,901 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 10,806 shares. The market capitalisation of Best Of The Best Plc is £301,212,832.
solooiler: nice discussion fever. I am bland on this. I can go onto botb right now and buy 75 tickets and fuel for the most expensive supercar and that is a 400 quid bill. And here the government is regulating 2 quid FOBT bets because of addiction and how easy it is to repeat play and squander money. and then I can go into the lifestyle competition and spend a shed load on raffles. and then i can play midweek and do the same again. I would be much more worried about regulation having a detrimental impact to botbs earnings either from remote gaming duty or hard restrictions. the focus of the gambling act review is to crack down on online gambling because so much has grown up unregulated. if i was a regulator i would be very worried about any businesses that are growing MORE than 100 per cent a year at scale with social media advertising a big part of player recruitment. revcomps is growing quickly and does similar stuff with a humungous facebook audience too my biased two pennies because im against these sorts of businesses not having very strict regulation I personally think its absiolutely ridiculous that BOTB is not required by law to tell punters how many people have entered into any competition. I would worry that just a simple statistic like that could be seriously damaging to whether people bother to play. A bit like when the CFD companies were required by law to start telling punters what percentage of customers lose money. At least raffle companies by definition are transparent on this I dont think botb are winning any SRI prizes any time soon in my book
thelongandtheshortandthetall: I've just been watching a mark Slater interview. He states very clearly that never pay over 20x earnings. So my inclination is that the directors at botb reluctantly reduced their asking price to that level, exactly. Two times the half year 60p = 120p x PE of 20 gives £24. Imo the second half will be higher than 60p. Somewhere around 70-80p is my guess. Giving a total of 135p x a more realistic PE of 25 gives a target share price of £33.75 This is base case imo and only the beginning. 👍
3ootuk: I wonder if we might see a 10:1 share split next? UK investors are used to shares being sub £10. Silly really as it should be p/e, eps, pegr they look at rather than individual share price. If they want institutions to offload a little to PIs going forward then a share price of £3 is more usual than £30.
peart: The thing is earnings multiples that people are prepared to pay can fluctuate and are subjective. I'm sure you're right Serratia whereby for a few years the market has ascribed a price at around 23* operating cash flow, but I don't also think that Ryanc106 is wrong in suggesting a p/e of 30 times fwd earnings. The thing that has changed recently is the growth rate of the earnings that the company is producing, and this has gone up massively. This can often lead to a change in the multiple that investors are prepared to pay. Also, different successful businesses can have different earnings multiples applied to them. Look at Fevertree by example, a great business that has been growing nicely for many years but not massively year on year now, yet it trades on circa 45-50 times earnings - that to me is fully priced currently. Yes it's got a niche that it's doing very well in and perhaps it trades on a premium due to the possibility of been taken out by one of the big boys, ie Coca Cola, but I doubt it's going to grow by 50% or more per year from now, even with it's USA expansion. BOTB could get to those sort of multiples in the future, particularly if say fwd eps for next year is handsomely higher - say £3.00 plus which would be circa 100% growth on top of circa 300% growth this year. Mind you in a bad market where sentiment is terrible and people are frightened, multiples can also fall to areas where stocks are almost scarily cheap - that's the other side of the coin! All I can say is I don't think that 30* fwd earnings of (possibly and we'll have to see) £3.00 plus, equating to a share price of £90 is not that unreasonable. The shares would only be at the equivalent of £21 based upon last years earnings when 70p was forecasted - obviously we are going to be a lot higher than that, and if the fwd estimated (£3 plus) was advised it would represent the 3rd year of fabulous growth which has to help the multiple. The downside is if the multiple goes up the shares are not as cheap to buy as they are now.... I feel that the FSP is perhaps dead, and if this is confirmed along with a great fwd eps estimate by the company, I see no reason why the shares will not trade higher. We are currently on 18 times my earnings guesstimate for the year (£1.50 which is nearly there (30.4.21), and this is not expensive for 300% growth, on top of 110% the prior year. Maybe the FSP is still humming along nicely and if management feel they're getting close to the limit of where they can take this maybe they will sell out. I don't think either of these scenarios will materialise and I also don't think that a buyer would be prepared to pay what management would accept. Why sell if you can see huge rewards down the pipeline, regardless. Surely the time to sell, unless someone is prepared to cough up big time, is when you've had your huge growth years, are now doing a steady 10% per year and someone pays you 40 times next years earnings. It all feels too early in the growth story to me. Interesting business. We'll see.
mammyoko: It is possible to construct a scenario where this is valued at £50 per share. At a mid-price currently of £27 and based upon a best guess of eps of £1.20 for the year, the implied p/e is around 23. If earnings actually come in at £1.40 with a forecast of, say, £1.80 for 2022 then it's possible to see a price of £50 per share this year. The question is where is future growth going to come from? Why has the company not tried to replicate the model in other territories? Because there was enough business to go after in the UK without complicating matters and stretching resources in unfamiliar places? Or because management knows that the business model doesn't work in other territories? I don't know the answer to that but perhaps Paul Scott, who may be reading this and who has been following the company for much longer than me, may be able to answer that question from previous conversations with management? Or perhaps other investors have put that question to management in the past and have useful information to share? If the answer is that there was always enough business to go after in the UK then potential expansion overseas could be the key to growing the business and the share price significantly. If the answer is that it's been tried before / that the model doesn't work elsewhere / regulations in other countries would prevent it from working then the question is how much bigger can the market get in the UK? Recent UK growth might suggest that management has always believed that there was enough business to go after in the UK without taking on the problems of replicating it elsewhere. Certainly, it would be risky to attempt to open up elsewhere when the UK business is growing so strongly. But any suggestion that the business could be successfully exported to, say, the US or the Far East would take the company's valuation to a different level. These are, presumably, questions that any potential acquirer would be testing. Because, at these levels, there's really nothing left on the table for PE. I would suggest that one way of compensating for the inevitable share price weakness once the sales process is ended would be for management to suggest that they are considering the possibility of taking their model overseas. That might come across as a little rampy. But I think I am right in saying that there have been virtually no rampy statements from management in the last five years since I have been following the company - the share price has got where it is purely on good trading, clean accounting and under-stated communication. Be interested to hear others' views of whether the model can be exported. Of course, even if it can the question is whether management has the will to build a £1bn cap business or whether they prefer to cash in at this level?
investographer: Remember that William Hindmarch is the largest shareholder here with half the stock, 4 million odd shares.He is getting millions in dividends & special dividends, even in this early stage of its growth.For him to give up this amazing yield/ income, he would only accept a figure way ahead of the current share price.My only surprise is that there are still interested parties with the current share price where it is.
peart: Something can always go wrong - there are no guarantees in this game, but if the business continues to boom and fwd earnings look great come a couple of months time, then the market will respond and this share price should go up. I think it's a question of when not if, risk wise. And most risk is to the upside. I would definitely not want to short this stock - no way. I expected 40p ish 1st half and we got 60p, I reckon the 2nd half will be circa 90p and even that may be light (all as stated before), as the 1st half was such a positive shock. I think £50 per share is very realistic and as said it's a question of when not if, so long as the current trends continue. As usual Ryanc106, we have similar views on this company! If, as I've guesstimated, we earn £1.50/share this year with say a fwd £3.00 per share, representing 100% growth on top of 300% growth the prior year then £50 per share is by no way expensive. Say 40 times fwd earnings of £3.00 - £120 would be pretty pricey, in my view. (But if at £120 the fwd earnings were say £6/share and it was say January - a few months before the year end, I would not view that price as expensive). I also question my fwd guesstimate of £3.00 per share. If we grow by 300%, and we are still a small company, in a year is 100% growth whilst amazing still possibly a bit light. There does come a point where such growth figures are impossible, but BOTB is still very small - hence my point. Moving forward, I would not be surprised, if the shares do rocket up over this year, if the Directors authorise a say 10 for 1 share split. Not that this will add any value to someone's holding but it would increase liquidity by bringing the price down per share and increasing the float. There are not many shares on the UK exchanges trading in the 70's or 80 pounds per share. The other thing worthy of consideration is this business is a web based technology company, with tremendous growth. As the company grows and starts to appear on more people's radar, with increased awareness, the stock price may rise as people are prepared, as such, to pay more for it. Tech type mega growth companies tend to trade on a higher multiple due to great growth forecasted going into the future, but I don't feel that BOTB is getting the benefit of this position currently. Somebody posted here a week or two ago that they didn't want to post too many of their positive views, I think, as they didn't want to appear as if they were ramping, which I assume means to try to force the price up with manipulation. I found that interesting and thought "fair enough". I just want to be clear here that my comments, whilst they have some wishful thinking, are totally genuine, are my own thoughts and considerations and I have no interest in ramping, but only discussing and highlighting my genuine opinions on this exciting business. There is no guarantee with this game (The Stock Market), but I do firmly believe that if a company performs very well and grows its earnings handsomely, then in time the market will reward patient stock holders with a higher share price. BOTB is probably going to grow by about 300% this year eps wise and I can only view that as extremely positive and exciting!
feverfan: The moat isn’t there at first glance...shown by the number of competitions popping up on fb by amateurs. BOTB have a 20 year brand behind them - go on YouTube and watch some of the videos to see how loyal people are / how much of a following they have. If you’re gambling online to win a don’t want to do it, even if it’s £3 with someone you’ve never heard of / where the website looks dodgy / amateur. They’re clearly the market leader and have a database which is hugely valuable. The threat I see is from a gambling company who has the customers and could put adverts on their own site and a big marketing budget. However, remember how cheap BOTB are for the prizes they are giving. It would take some seriously deep pockets from a gambling company to copy the model and offer better prizes - BOTB now offering 50k cash with every dream car entry...that’s a sign of how confident they are. They will keep increasing the prize value / reducing the ticket prices as it will help maintain their moat. So I don’t think it’s going to be easy for any of the amateur s to beat them - some are such away second hand cars and tickets £3+? Now...could a gambling company replicate their model...yes but. Is a Paddy power or William Hill really where the car fan goes? BOTB have made their brand around cars...look at the Instagram account and how many likes they get on their pics they post of flash’s all about building that brand. So whilst I do worry about this also, the more I think about it, the stronger their brand gets each year and the bigger the moat gets. The lifestyle competition you could argue is easier for someone else to copy and build as its lower value items but again, I think brand is everything. I wouldn’t trust any of the others I’ve just seen...some look like bedroom operations set up in the pandemic. You could have a huge marketing budget but I don’t think that’ll yield the same results if the trust isn’t there...BOTB isn’t a raffle also so you can win with one ticket. The raffle ones your odds go down when more people enter as it’s pure chance. BOTB it is broadly irrelevant how many people enter now as the winner is usually bang on or at most 1 coordinate out on one axis. So they could double the number of players and still people will feel they have a chance to win - vs a raffle which has inherent problems on both sides. If you’re growing and not selling enough tickets you aren’t making money, and once you get to a certain size people start to feel their odds are too low as there’s too many tickets being sold!
studentinvestor13: BOTB is getting better and better and better. It is becoming more and more international even if the UK stays the big chunk of the pie. BOTB is a hyper growth tiddler in the UK gaming market!. This is not a question of competition. Total industry gross gambling yields in the UK are £14.2 BILLION. That is the same as BOTB's gross profit. Double BOTBs gross profit in the interim report and they are only at £28 million gross profit. BOTB is growing fast from a market share of 0.2%! The National Lottery has a gross gambling yield of £3.2 billion... BOTB is 1% the size of the National Lottery.....! BOTB IS MORE ENJOYABLE! I play it myself and used to talk about it with my mates every week down the pub. It is way more interactive than the National Lottery or straight raffle competitions. I normally get my spot within zone 2 of the judging so get a good amount of my credit back to re play with and have the Silver tier loyalty of Supercharged Club. They have started to cap ticket purchases. Two years ago you could buy 150 tickets a time and the ticket prices were a lot higher. Within the last fortnight they have capped the ticket count down from 100 to 75. This is all good news for player governance. Less rash spending, and a strengthening moat. Other competitions are straight raffles. They have no ecosystem, their online fronts are poor if legitimate. I imagine some are buying instagram followers. The cheaper spot the ball entries compared to 2 years ago are now with bigger prizes!. The competition cannot compete on this. They are opening up the market for casual players who only want to spend a little bit a week like on the lottery. I can buy one ticket for a brand new Mercedes SL500 + £50K for only £3.10. A prize with a value of £139K. Competitor example? 7days Performance, 2014 Audi RS6 no cash and I have to pay £3.49 for a chance at winning. Chalk and cheese. Cheaper tickets bigger prizes equals bigger audience and BOTB are the market leader. They could become a global leader. The lifestyle competition is an extension and helps attract people who are not motorheads like me. Straight quiz game raffle but I can buy a ticket for a £2800 motorbike for only 15p. 15p is nothing! For the excitement of maybe winning something, why not punt 15p once a month or twice a week.
peart: I agree with you Jeff H re IC article. I would add that it made me question IC's judgement - "But to someone who detests airports and is content to take the bus, this seems an unlikely success story, so, in the absence of broker coverage and a relative peer group, it is difficult to arrive at a meaningful valuation. Hold." What a load of nonsense, is my view of that comment. What someone personally likes or doesn't like is irrelevant to whether a business is a success or not and BOTB's results speak for themselves. A valuation can be arrived at by looking at the growth and what are reasonable P/E's as a base, and what investors might be prepared to accept in addition to that for that growth. Consideration can be given to other web based company buyouts/similar types of businesses, etc, etc. There are other approaches too and several on this panel have arrived at their own valuations - I think currently those views are between £30 - £50 per share, but could easily be a lot higher. It's not rocket science and as such I view Mark Robinson's comment as somewhat inept. With all of IC's supposed expertise they cannot arrive at a valuation - I ask you?? Irrespective of a buyout or not with such growth I would say a current fair share price could easily be £26 - £33 per share as it stands, with no takeover and min earnings this year of £1.30 at a 20 - 25 p/e I've read IC for years and they often don't get it right, which is perhaps to be expected (I know I don't always eg get a share purchase right!), but this has to be a humdinger of an error when, knowing something about BOTB, one reads this!!! I did question in my mind if the author had had a run in with BOTB management, hence such a negative conclusion - I have no knowledge of this but that is what I thought when I read the closing part of the article. I was simply shocked at how wrong his view appeared to me. (I've often questioned my regular purchase of IC, and this poor article made me question it again! A few more like this and I'll probably cancel it!!)
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