Afc Energy Share Discussion Threads

[hereford29] 09/4/2015 11:54

Because I have invested a lot of money at around 50p or 55p average I think,(over £150,000), of course I want the share price to go back up to 75p, or £1.00, and perhaps if enough people believe posts such as these, it will. If it does, I will have recovered my losses and have made a profit, so I will sell. But I don't see any reason on fundamentals that it should, the company has no commercially valid contracts locked in to guarantee revenue and I believe the management are lazy and incompetent and I don't trust the RNSs or Mr Bond. It has been a big disappointment based on the initial promises made and deadlines / targets missed. In any event, I think that if the company really got to the point of being commercially profitable, a way of taking it private at a low price because it had run out of funding and engineering a sale to the major shareholders would be worked out between the Board and the Russians. Meanwhile, I hope the share prices goes up over 75p again, back to where it was four years ago.

[norbus] 09/4/2015 11:46

1GW by 2020

[ride the wave] 09/4/2015 10:56

Green energy is the future !

Everyone will want our fuel cells .

Bring on the new contracts .

Gla

[markbarker] 09/4/2015 10:02

More good news I feel

[robo175] 07/4/2015 22:52

Posted on AFC Energy Shareholders Forum

Going back to my original post, based on the figures from CT we can now see that it works out as follows for AFC:

Due to AB not taking IW's salary and doing some cost cutting, cash burn is probably £3.6m or £300,000 per month, in which case 39p per share would cover the cash burn, leaving AFC's cash pile intact, more than that and AFC's cash pile would increase.

Cash at Bank: £4.5m (1 March 2015) is over 1 years cash. At 39p share price this cash would still be in the bank in a years time when the Lanstead deal ends. At 50p share price the cash in the bank would have increased by probably £1,075,011.24 over 12 months, later this year at a possible £1 share price AFC would see £479,168.55 per month increase in the bank balance, courtesy of Lanstead.

Every penny on the share price adds £7,791.68 to AFC's monthly income.

The Lanstead deal started on 15 October 2014 and runs for 18 months, which means it finishes on 14 April 2016, so there's still a year to go.

Lets say we start a couple of weeks back when the share price was 26p and work forward over the next 12 months, based on possible news driven price increases. (This is an example only, make up your own mind as to where you think the share price will go and when!)

Three months at 26p = £607,751 which is over two months worth of cash added to the pot, that pushes any potential fund raising outwards by two months.

Three months at 52p would give AFC £1,215,502 or enough cash to last them 4 months, pushing any potential fund raising outwards by 4 months.

Three months at 78p would give AFC £1,823,253 or enough cash to last them 6 months, pushing any potential fund raising outwards by 6 months.

Three months at 104p would give AFC £2,431,004 or enough cash to last them 8 months, pushing any potential fund raising outwards by 8 months.

So in total AFC in this scenario would have accumulated £6,077,510, far more than the £2,486,000 nominal value of the 22m shares placed with Lanstead!!

This is 8 + 6 + 4 + 2 months worth of cash, a total of 20 months worth of cash. 8-) 8-)

All the bashers talking drivel on the other BB's should wake up and smell the coffee :lol:

Meanwhile Lanstead have 23.1m shares and can sell these into demand over the 18 months to pay back AFC, without damaging the share price and whilst making a nice profit in between. If Lanstead sold for example 1.28m shares in a month, that's only 50k-60k per day and unlikely to affect the share price Selling 1.28m at 30p would net them £384,000 plus the £103,888.88 from the deposit is £487,888.88, then they pay AFC £233,750.56 leaves them in profit for the month to the tune of £254,138.32!!

If the price went to 50p Lanstead would make £354,304.61 for the month.

If the price went to £1 Lanstead would make £524,720.33 for the month.

Now we can see why this deal can be so beneficial to AFC AND Lanstead.

[beeezzz] 07/4/2015 22:19

Provided by Chris Tawney Posted by Ianous on iii BB Thanks

I posted a similar explanation regarding Lanstead equity swap agreement its just simple maths

VWAP Value

Monthly Settlement Amount
£0.10 = £77,916.85

£0.133 = £103,888.88

£0.15 = £116,875.28

£0.20 = £155,833.71

£0.25 = £194,792.14

£0.30 = £233,750.56

£0.40 = £311,667.42

£0.50 = £389,584.27

£0.75 = £584,376.41

£1.00 = £779,168.55

[ride the wave] 07/4/2015 15:56

Strength into close and new higher high on the way .

[hereford29] 07/4/2015 15:08

or eventual sell out and de-list to a partner at a low share price. the latter I think.

[ride the wave] 07/4/2015 14:56

Afc are for dividends or take over !!!

Next Microsoft IMHO

[hereford29] 07/4/2015 14:43

I'm sure plenty of people make money trading the shares. I only ever want to buy shares in company's that will pay dividends in the future and that I never need to sell. But that isn't what AIM is about, it is a trading platform for chancers or a way to get a listing and avoid good corporate governance.

[beeezzz] 07/4/2015 14:14

Arrr...The voice of reason....sadly I never took profits...the greed factor and belief they were close to a major green energy revolution...only to be dashed.

[hereford29] 07/4/2015 11:33

26th October 2010 - high 81.25p - four and a half years later, still no revenue generated, share price under 30p.

[ride the wave] 07/4/2015 11:25

Lanstead is feeling the pressure and it's going to get a lot worse for them IMHO .

In the meantime ...watch the volume , accumalation and the price rise .

1GW by 2020 says it all !!!

[hereford29] 07/4/2015 11:12

blah, blah, blah. What is this markbarker, or are you barkingmad, the Mr BOND fan club? As per the Korean army deal, we've been expecting you Mr Bond - except as shareholder I've been expecting you to make a profit ........ or perhaps I am mistaken, isn't the job of the board to meet targets, deliver on forecasts, stick to budgets and show an increase in shareholder value over a reasonable period? Have they done this? NO.

[jakecat1] 07/4/2015 10:43

Shaping up nicely now :-)

[norbus] 07/4/2015 08:05

You'll be so hooked up into the grid, you'll come out the other end and PYSL till YSYL

[ride the wave] 06/4/2015 21:07

When you compare market caps to our peers :- we look extreamly cheap . I expect that gap will get a lot smaller as we sign up more deals . Our CEO is on a mission ..and I think he is doing a sterling job myself . Lanstead must be getting rather worried because it's costing them nearly twice as much per month and there's no high end limit (lol) .

The fundamentals just keep on getting stronger and stronger . We are now potentially fast tracking the fast track (pmsl) . We could get hooked up to the grid before December (we will actually be making money once hooked up) . I wouldn't be surprised if we had a steady flow of RNSs all the way to the end of the year , add that to the quarterly updates and you have the perfect recipe for success because Aim in news driven and Afc are delivering the goods IMHO .

GLA

[spock88] 06/4/2015 19:30

I like the "cut of your jib" Jim.

[robo175] 06/4/2015 09:47

Jim just filter him like I have from his very first uneducated comment.

[jimmynan] 06/4/2015 09:41

Hereford your comments are drivel. May I particularly draw you to the comment about that share price being 30% of what it was when IW took over. I don't remember seeing an share price of 85p at any point and I don't think it even managed an intraday spike of this when Linc and RA bought in. Maths probably wasn't your strongest subject was it?!?!?This year should be transformational for AFC and once KORE is up and running the main problem AFC will have, will be trying to service all the orders it is likely to receive.GLA'genuine'HJim

[hereford29] 04/4/2015 18:55

If these guys were on The Apprentice they wouldn't have made it past the first round.

[hereford29] 04/4/2015 18:35

The share price has gone south since 2011, 1gw is an "aggressive" target - what drivel. In the past four years companies with good management that meet their targets and deadlines have seen large percentage increases in their share prices. AFC's chart shows a significant decline. If things were really so much better now, why is the share price 30pc of what it was when Ian Wiliamson joined as CEO?

This is a badly managed company with decent technology.

[ride the wave] 02/4/2015 12:20

No I sold just before the huge rise lol .

Timed my recent buys perfect 295,000 below 11p average (all posted live) .

These are for dividends , I will be posting until takeover !

Lol