Afc Energy Share Discussion Threads

[norbus] 24/12/2013 10:44

I appreciate a dram myself. Cheers

[beeezzz] 23/12/2013 12:51

NB...Couldn't agree more....Seasons greetings have good one, cheers, mines a pint!!!

[norbus] 22/12/2013 06:32

bz

Needs an activist group to band together and sue the LSE for negligence to uphold law demanding NOMADs protect shareholders by ensuring fairplay

[broshm] 21/12/2013 14:23

Sounds a bit like the BBC to me .

[beeezzz] 20/12/2013 23:03

NB....PI's are led like lambs to the slaughter, with the prospects of untold riches dangling before our very eyes tempting us to part with our hard earned cash, only to see it disappear like magic by unscrupulous con men, who are supposedly honest morel guardians of our loan.

AIM market is law unto itself, there has been a major push by Mareb on STGR to actually get the regulators to investigate the BOD in STGR, yet to no avail, so far, he's only a PI you see a nobody a nothing an insignificant irritant who they hope will get tired of his pursuit of corrupt, immoral and downright dishonest management, and just drift away like leaves in the wind. ?The morel is PI have no voice period, simply because it falls on deaf ears.

[marcleo3] 19/12/2013 16:22

My shares for 2014 AFC,GRPH,NANO,QFI,all well up with exception of Afc but I expect them all to go up at least 10 times

[norbus] 19/12/2013 10:42

Must be practically teetotal. :-( SueYou1 Filtered !

[sueyou1] 18/12/2013 20:57

BES is the XMas przzy ;-) Sorry it's 'cheap' but it's value should increase nicely over the next 6 months ;-)

[broshm] 18/12/2013 18:50

Cheeky chappie ha ha .
Where is this Xmas przzy ?

[holism] 17/12/2013 16:59

Yes very odd Norbus, I am always suspicious when there appears to be no good reason for a drop in share price. There aren't many institutions involved so far, the recent EIS three year time frame expired in November, management have options and I guess the retiring director has already been paid off. As you say plenty of cash for the time being, however if they are to ramp up who knows how much dosh they will need.

[norbus] 16/12/2013 14:09

NT

Most informative article; enjoyed reading how the French think. 2000 Bar/@200C is a high pressure/temperature mix to apply on any scale outside a lab. Then you need to dispose of the methane which is more harmful ecologically than CO2.

GE produced diamonds with high P/T mix but that was at small pilot plant scale. I bought a small statue in Serpentine stone, pretty and commonly found in Rhodesia. There are far easier ways to release H2 by quenching O2 out of water by some metals, like zinc, at high temperatures 1200C in the open air.

[new tech] 14/12/2013 11:55

Hydrogen squeezed from stone could be new energy source
By Simon Redfern
Reporter, BBC News
Peridot

Olivine is sometimes found in nature as the semi-precious stone peridot

Scientists from the University of Lyon have discovered a new way to split hydrogen gas from water, using rocks.

The method promises a new green energy source, providing copious hydrogen from a simple mixture of rock and water.

It speeds up a chemical reaction that takes geological timescales in nature.

In the reaction, the mineral olivine strips one oxygen and hydrogen atom from an H2O molecule to form a mineral called serpentine, releasing the spare hydrogen atom.

The results were discussed at this week's meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco, and have been published in the journal American Mineralogist.

The researchers heated olivine minerals in water to a couple of hundred degrees Celsius, and added a little bit of ruby (aluminium oxide) to the mix to provide a source of aluminium atoms.

The whole mix was placed into a miniature pressure cooker, formed of two diamonds, that squeezed the mixture to 2,000 atmospheres pressure.

The transparent diamonds allowed the scientists to watch the reaction take place.

The process occurs, albeit very slowly, in the rocks that form the ocean floors around the globe. In these natural settings it is thought that the hydrogen that is produced either reacts with carbon to form methane, or is used by microbes that live deep in the rocks to sustain life deep beneath the Earth's surface.

Serpentised slab of olivine
Natural serpentinisation is the way that olivine "rots"
It is not yet clear exactly how much of this non-biologically generated methane is being produced within rocks across the planet.

Olivine is a common green mineral, sometimes mined as the semi-precious stone "peridot". The serpentine mineral that forms from it is beloved of sculptors and is often used as a decorative facing stone for buildings.

The mineralogists at Lyon were expecting the reaction to take weeks, if not months, so having set the experiment running one afternoon they were shocked to discover that half of the olivine crystal had already reacted when they took a look at it the next morning.

They realised that the addition of aluminium, dissolved from the ruby crystal, was key, speeding up the rate at which the olivine crystals dissolve in water and new serpentine minerals grow. Any source of aluminium could be used, and at the lower temperature experiments the researchers also used bauxite.

Describing their finds, Dr Isabelle Daniel told BBC News: "Serpentinisation is very common in nature and occurs along mid-ocean ridges.

"Hydrogen is measured at all the hydrothermal vents from these places and a huge amount of hydrogen and methane is produced: it is a general feature of the mid-ocean ridges. It is a major source of energy for chemo-synthetic bacteria in rocks."

[beeezzz] 13/12/2013 14:23

Jak....Your making the assumption they will not receive any revenue over that period which I find hard to believe, whether it will be significant is hard to predict.

[norbus] 13/12/2013 13:06

AR can afford to bankroll them another £10m or so; be sure his DD boys did a good job; they will not want a polonium needle up their bum. Akzo intelligence is news to me.

surprised sue has not contradicted you; that is significant

[norbus] 13/12/2013 11:46

AFC have ample cash for 2 years. The way you think, you have probably ordered your funeral already! AFC have an excellent future if they deliver the system within 2 years, plus the possibility RA will take them out before they do, if they are close to target.