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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Advanced Medical Solutions LSE:AMS London Ordinary Share GB0004536594 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +3.00p +1.00% 304.00p 303.50p 305.00p 310.00p 294.50p 310.00p 947,416 16:35:23
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Health Care Equipment & Services 96.9 25.3 9.5 31.9 648.97

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
14/2/2019
08:08
`p@` so is that the reason why they are shorted ???
dealit
14/2/2019
07:24
deal-ams are on a very high PE ratio,and a high market cap -£650m,they must keep growing at past rates to justify these values.
p@
14/2/2019
07:13
I keep asking this question on this board, why are AMS shares so prone to this outrageous practise of shorting.
dealit
14/2/2019
01:10
Judging by the volumes traded, some of the big holders are p!ssing about, loaning out their shares. 2.1m traded according to AMS chart apparently, but not appearing under trades info for 13/2. Weird.
wetdream
13/2/2019
18:55
dealit, any shareholder who puts a sell price on their holding is ringfenced and their shares cannot be shorted. Downside is if for example there is a surge in the market cap for whatever reason you could be out so a high price needs to be stipulated.
potty punter
13/2/2019
16:14
What infuriates myself is that shorters are creating the share price to drop with my shares.
dealit
13/2/2019
03:41
Let them buy, let the sell, I for one will neither buy nor sell, I have a nice number of the shares and hold long term. I can not think of a sounder stock with sounder prospects.
winnings1
12/2/2019
19:09
We know now.
wetdream
11/2/2019
14:25
Do not know if they are buys or sells?
dealit
11/2/2019
10:19
Big trades going through.
wetdream
11/2/2019
07:08
Hmm....in that case no fee is payable? 🤔
wetdream
10/2/2019
09:27
I did not know my shares could be used in that way, NOT HAPPY.
dealit
10/2/2019
08:14
Yes wetdream they can.
potty punter
10/2/2019
06:55
Can shares held in nominee accounts be used for shorting without the holders permission?
wetdream
09/2/2019
11:44
IMHO shorting needs to be made more transparent, insider dealing comes to my mind.
dealit
08/2/2019
21:15
bamboo Convertibles are uncommon, but you are correct where they do form part of a company's share capital.
redartbmud
08/2/2019
21:09
Re the debate on shorts. Depending on the particular company, and situation, shorts don't always have to buy back. For example, a holder of convertible bonds can use these to repay a stock lender once the bonds are converted to ordinary stock. It's worth googling this, and naked shorting, for more info. gla
bamboo2
08/2/2019
19:53
Interesting debate. Thanks. 👍
wetdream
08/2/2019
15:29
The evil shorters are out to get you! ;-) Shorting is swings and roundabouts. Alot of people will think of it as illogical and working absolutely terribly in causing huge shareholder value destruction, or at least risk causing this. On the other side though, you have seen the likes of OCDO and PLUS where shorts have been absolutely obliterated and shows just how risky it is being short, particularly crowded shorts. I'm not saying those are special companies that provide value, but ultimately if the fundamentals stack up, the stock will take out the shorts and rally to where it should be. It won't seem like that alot of the time when you have such a contentious issue floating about, but it is what it is, and we have to adapt accordingly. As for AMS, the strength in the price continues. There was a little panic type lurch to 320 yesterday - a 5p jump in one go. It's difficult to know where this spike is going to go and the actions of those who are short now, but as I said it's really risky shorting illiquid stocks. I do short and when I get it wrong, I cover straight away because I prefer to keep losses contained and I'm shorting in small size so no issue covering. The problem with shorting 1%+ of a company with a illiquid stocks like this is, when the market does move against you and the stock keeps climbing, other shorts start blinking and covering and forcing the stock higher, normal buyers then buy more and it all can become a very vicious circle. I'm watching with interest, but I'm a seller into this spike regardless. Only ever trading this and never hang about when spikes get extended. US is looking abit wobbly and overbought too so another reason to sell into these spikes. I might pop back on at some point in the future if it peeks the curiosity for another trade. Hope it keeps going up!
sphere25
08/2/2019
14:41
So you lend somebody 1 million shares when they are quoted at £2.50 = £2.5m They short, and the price falls to £2.00 =£2m On paper you are losing £0.5m You get a fee of .0025% = £2,500. When you report your results, your P&L A/ac has Income of £2,500 Your Balance Sheet is down £500,000 Hey ho....
redartbmud
08/2/2019
14:20
Yes wetdream it is likely that selling by shorters would influence prices when they sold. But The shorter has to buy the shares again to complete the trade, which will send the price back up. (Think about why the opposite strategy doesn’t work i.e. I’ll buy loads of shares to drive the price up and then sell them again at a higher price to make a profit. Easy money! No - if buying can drive the price up then selling will equivalently drive it down...) Also, if you have a genuinely long term perspective you shouldn’t really care about short term price movements anyway. In practice shorting may create a drag on the price if the shorter is successful in adversely affecting sentiment, though over the longer term this will unwind. If you have confidence in your investment it makes total sense to lend your shares to short term speculators for a bit of extra cash. The odds are on your side that the shorting does not imply something wrong with the business over the long term. Most shorting is unprofitable and a lot of it comes from hedging strategies etc.
trigger16
07/2/2019
22:13
More news on its way?
wetdream
07/2/2019
08:22
It all sounds like a crazy game these shorters are playing. My question is what makes AMS stock attractive to them?
dealit
07/2/2019
08:07
And the institutions, who are supposedly looking after your money, are throwing it down the toilet and polling the chain.
redartbmud
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