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ADIG Abrdn Diversified Income And Growth Plc

46.20
1.40 (3.12%)
26 Jul 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Abrdn Diversified Income And Growth Plc LSE:ADIG London Ordinary Share GB0001297562 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.40 3.12% 46.20 45.00 46.10 46.00 45.70 46.00 496,693 16:35:26
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty 3.49M -299k -0.0010 -457.00 138.51M
Abrdn Diversified Income And Growth Plc is listed in the Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker ADIG. The last closing price for Abrdn Diversified Income... was 44.80p. Over the last year, Abrdn Diversified Income... shares have traded in a share price range of 44.00p to 87.00p.

Abrdn Diversified Income... currently has 309,177,359 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Abrdn Diversified Income... is £138.51 million. Abrdn Diversified Income... has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -457.00.

Abrdn Diversified Income... Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
28/3/2024
11:25
A small note from me re the NAV "dips" in last week or so.

I'd say this is consistent with the cash going up as the liquid portfolio is realised, due to transaction costs and bid/offer slippage etc.

I had 5% costs for the liquid portfolio which is perhaps conservative, but I do note that 1p drop in NAV = £3m. The recent cash increase to £58m suggests a ~£50m liquidation. So maybe it cost ADIG £3m to raise £50m = 6% cost? I suspect this is just a coincidence!

skinnypope
26/3/2024
12:36
CC, this is one of the reasons for the % discount - uncertainty around the 'reliability' of the NAV.
essentialinvestor
26/3/2024
12:27
hmm. NAV dropped nearly a penny yesterday. (0.94p)
cc2014
26/3/2024
08:57
The 3% may possibly have been used to pay/invest into draw requirements in existing funds. i.e. "meet outstanding commitments in respect of its private
markets portfolio (such commitments amounting to c.£38.4 million in total)"

mandihong
26/3/2024
07:50
Why only put 3% in liquid cash equivalents? Why not all of it?
cc2014
26/3/2024
06:46
That definition to me is "cash". Perhaps ADIG are taking it literally.
spectoacc
25/3/2024
22:03
Ah, right - appreciated.

The benefit of reading diligently.

essentialinvestor
25/3/2024
21:58
This paragraph was included in the new investment objective and policy when they issued the winding up circular:

Any cash received by the Company as part of the realisation process prior to its distribution to Shareholders will be held by the Company as cash on deposit and/or in liquid cash equivalents securities (including direct investment in treasuries and/or gilts, funds holding such investments, money market or cash funds and/or short-dated corporate bonds or funds that invest in such bonds) pending its return to shareholders.

strathroyal
25/3/2024
21:50
* good point - and it can't be the bond redemption either as that's second week of April.
essentialinvestor
25/3/2024
20:22
Why has the net cash fallen from last report? Have I forgotten a large XD?
spectoacc
25/3/2024
19:01
@Essential - yes IRR assumes reinvestment (this is standard in the calculation).
skinnypope
25/3/2024
15:22
Only tiny in the scheme of things (£1.2m) but the Majedie equity fund repaid in February.
tiltonboy
25/3/2024
15:18
Skinny, are your calcs based on reinvesting the 38 pence back, or not?. Thx

I'm guessing it's in keeping all cash returns.

essentialinvestor
25/3/2024
13:41
I've not got much new commentary to add here as all the facts remain the same, and also as others have done a great job keeping this board up to date.

I have watched the NAV discount creep ever wider which, coupled with time passing, has continued to push up the IRR from my cashflow model. My inputs and assumptions are unchanged, and still somewhat conservative on liquidation costs. I see the IRR now just over 20% out to the end of 2028.

This is now above where private funds target; for example the flagship Oaktree Opportunities Fund is currently open for another tranche, with a target IRR of 16-21%

Having sat on the sidelines with my current holding, I have just bought in here.

Good luck all.

skinnypope
22/3/2024
15:27
Yes, selling in to strong markets may be supportive to cash returns. Valid observation.
essentialinvestor
22/3/2024
00:29
Well they might get more if the markets rally. I'm pretty confident in the NAV. The private markets stuff is not being disposed in a fire sale but gradually over time. And the income will accrue.
Yes it's the same ballpark chucko.

hugepants
21/3/2024
17:48
How close to the 38 pence return will they get in H1?, pretty close hopefully.

Nothing guaranteed, as always.

essentialinvestor
21/3/2024
16:30
"Yes, but 46%?"

Isn't it 50% at 72.5p?

HP, perhaps, but I never said what I had assumed as a share price, nor the loss upon liquidation of initial phase assets!!

Anyway, I get 48.5% discount at a share price of 72.5p and with a zero loss upon sale. I had assumed 73p (offer) and 3% loss - as I had used when I first posted something on this board. In actual fact, I suspect it will be rather less than 3%.

chucko1
21/3/2024
14:51
I have inserted an R in to my above post ;.
essentialinvestor
21/3/2024
14:43
ABDN is a headwind, for sure. I looked at all the trades they did between November and February, so at least I can say they did nothing overly stupid. Just bought three new EM bonds in small size, totalling £1.2mn (having sold three others totalling £1.5mn).


I had estimated that the average quality of person working for ABRDN on this was not especially high, and that theory is further supported by elements within the updated portfolio presentation - with spelling mistakes and inconsistencies in the order of and naming of various assets. It suggests they either still use paper and pen, or have poor computer skills. So long as they leave the portfolio intact other than selling as and when, it cannot go too far wrong from what the pure arithmetic offers.

But it is, to remind, ABRDN. Sorry, abrdn.

chucko1
21/3/2024
14:43
"Yes, but 46%?"

Isn't it 50% at 72.5p?

hugepants
21/3/2024
14:20
There 'should' also be some upside to portfolio asset values still held, from here - you would hope!!.

It is ABRDN though ;.

essentialinvestor
21/3/2024
14:10
Hope so, I got 7,973 shares yesterday at 71.76. And a very small amount today at 71.6.
essentialinvestor
21/3/2024
14:03
Yes, but 46%? Include also the income to cone, which appears to be pretty stable. In fact, of late, the NAV has been more stable and I imagine the liquid portfolio is being sold and we will see an increase to the net negative leverage (i.e. cash!) in short order.
chucko1
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