Wt Indus Met Ld Discussion Threads

[i.av.a.gob] 31/7/2002 16:55

KDC

This club you belong to ..

.. is it called the Magic Circle?

:o

[tuvok] 31/7/2002 16:18

ainsoph - 31 Jul'02 - 16:58 - 305 of 307


I haven't seen a KDC post for around 8 months but note the KDC threads from last year are still extremely popular



ainsoph

Who asked you that? Pay up that grand you owe me or admit you are not KDC.

[palawrence] 31/7/2002 16:12

Ainsoph

Those threads will be if you and your other aliases keep posting on them.

LOL!

Where's your money coward?

OOh I'm really frightened when I come round to your "club" later (unless you have a real drink problem and was drunk at 7 o'clock this morning), you cannot even blame inebriation for that one.

LOL!

[ursus] 31/7/2002 16:05

if you look carefully at posts 174 and 177 on this thread, you will see that ainsoph admits to being KDC! but get there quickly before one of them is edited!

in post 174, matthewa quotes an old post from KDC, and suggests this shows KDC is acting unlawfully.

in post 177, ainsoph retorts that what the KDC post means is "I am winning money and using it rather than my own".

now i happen to think that that explanation is probably correct. but it does commit ainsoph to an unhappy little slip....

[2deano] 31/7/2002 15:58

When he does stand up, tell him to mind his head on the roof of the caravan.

[adek] 31/7/2002 15:56

Will the real KDC, please stand up, please stand up!! LOL!!!

[tuvok] 31/7/2002 15:52

ainsoph

You owned up to being 'KDC' yet? You owe me a grand. Pay up.

[ainsoph] 31/7/2002 15:47

ainsoph :-))

[dayjob] 31/7/2002 15:33

2Deano,

:-)

Agreed, but I think that's kind of what i was saying in the first place.

[dayjob] 31/7/2002 15:01

2Deano,

That's a bit harsh. Surely it is in itself a full time career. Shouldn't people be able to trust "professionals" to invest wisely on their behalf, in the same way you should be able to trust a doctor or a teacher?

Not blaming it all on the shorters, the fund managers are culpable, but they've wheeled the sheep in and you guys have administered the coup-de-grace. And its clearly not a good thing for the poor sods retiring now. Guess we're not going to agree.

Right, that's capitalism done.

Fancy a round of religion?

cheers.

[2deano] 31/7/2002 14:42

Dayjob,

When I said that I liked to help people, I wasn't referring to the aspect of shorting stocks that they may or may not be long of.

Ramping is not the undesirable polar opposite of shorting. Going long is opposite to shorting. There is a distinct difference.

The opposite to ramping is de-ramping.

Financial literacy is the only way working class people can benefit and retire comfortably. Ignorance of stock valuations ( talked up assets ) that have become detached from conventional methods and means of valuation is apathetic and therefore not excusable. Blaming the dissipation of people's capital on short sellers is not an accurate reflection upon the truth. If anything short selling helps to put a cap on assets that are forever talked up in a bull market. I will concede that it overall accelerates the inevitable in a bear market, but this is actually a good thing, believe it or not.. It also injects liquidity and aids efficiency of the market.

Where are all the Customers yachts, Fred Sched Jr. once said. Indeed.

No offence taken.

Cheers.

[dayjob] 31/7/2002 14:33

2Deano,

Nothing personal, but my view of shorting is that it may be a profitable strategy for sophisticated day traders, and a technically valid response to spotting overvalued stock but is hardly "helping people", when the vast majority of the capital dissipated belongs(ed) to normal working people investing indirectly for their retirement.

To me, ramping is the yin to this yang.

As I say, nothing personal. Cheers.

[2deano] 31/7/2002 13:59

Dayjob,

People can make their own decisions, but all I want to see is some kind of control from a moderational point of view with regard to multiple aliases.

From a personal perspective, I naturally like to help people if I can. It's all about having/being in a virtual community that has consistent parameters. That will not be achieved until controls are implemented to address this problem.

All the best.

[2deano] 31/7/2002 13:55

ainsoph - 31 Jul'02 - 14:44 - 289 of 289 (Filtered)

[dayjob] 31/7/2002 13:55

2Deano

I don't disagree with your premise, so far as having a worthwhile dialogue with an individual poster is concerned, but remain surprised by this apparent sense of "fair play", in a dog-eat-dog market, am amazed by the energies so many people put in to bickering with each other, and can't agree with the inference that we're all philanthropists who just want everyone to succeed.

[2deano] 31/7/2002 13:42

Dayjob - This is not about people that trade long or short. This is about people using multiple aliases for the purpose of ramping stocks on a free bulletin board. It is within advfn moderators power to put a stop to this & it is in everybody's interest for them to implement this. Surely you want to know that in reading a persons post or communicating with a frequenter of a bulletin board on a given thread, that it is in keeping with their intended username on a singular basis, if only for purposes of continuity.

The fact that the most prolific advfn user of multiple aliases is also a liar and a terrible trader is neither here nor there. I have no issue with that as users can be filtered if they are only operating under one username. DYOR always applies, but it is easy for moderators to implement controls in this regard if they so wish. That is all this thread is about, it's nothing personal.

[dayjob] 31/7/2002 13:35

Surely everyone here, bull or bear, is doing the same thing?

We are all capitalists, believe in free markets, and want to be winners at the expense of the losers - that's the only way it works.

If anyone is stupid enough to part with their capital purely on the basis of the positive/negative opinions they read on a free bb, whether they come from one poster or one hundred posters, then surely they get all they deserve?

It strikes me as very strange that people who want to make money at the expense of others have suddenly come over all altruistic and feel a need to defend them from bb manipulation.

Moreover,the bears are by their very nature upsetting many people's long worked for retirements, not just the individuals who trade daily on their own behalf, which is hardly the nicest thing in the world to do.

[palawrence] 31/7/2002 13:31

QED

LOL!