Urals Energy Share Discussion Threads

[shares14] 19/5/2009 17:59

navyan yes at 11p in that for a year new i should of waited but wanted to get the trade done and dusted,at some point peeps will look at the price here and suddenly realise how low it is,that is when it will bounce not going to say where i think that is;-)

[navyan] 19/5/2009 17:56

yeah, 6p or even 5p is on the card, but 7p is low enough for me anyway, not to be too greed :) rxp retraced s bit today, didnt it, did u top up there then?

[shares14] 19/5/2009 17:52

navyan,good luck on the top up but i feel this has still a bit further to fall but a big bounce could be on the cards later this week..

[pwilk47490] 19/5/2009 17:50

FWIW, there may be share dilution, but not at this level.

Sberbank and new BOD are not that stupid. Their plan would be a little more contrived. IE. Do what is required to get UEN back on its feet in the short-term, get share price back to decent levels, then dilute to pay Sberbank off in a chunk.

I see Sberbank supporting UEN for now for the above to happen. That is grant the required loans, develop D&T and get producing as much as poss, as soon as poss, taking advantage of the Tax relief.

D&T are being kept out of foreign hands, so what russians oilies could afford D&T from Sberbank with enough profit for Sberbank to make it worth getting out of bed......Answer none?!?!?

The long game for Sberbank is the way forward now. Support us and reap the benefits in the med-long term. They no longer need the money back in the short-term, thanks to support from russian government. They can be content with the repayments/interest payments for now, especially if the Russian government tells them too!!

Happy to be proved wrong..... but hope not. Cos the above is why I am invested here!

[navyan] 19/5/2009 17:43

oh, not much, just I did another top up here at the second support level 7p, well I got it at 7.6p anyway. hope this is my last one. tomorrow we back to 9p.

[le mass du pap] 19/5/2009 17:43

spp. I don't agree with the ever decreasing shareprice theory. It will turn when the seller decides to lay off. At that point the landscape will have changed, it will become clear and the traders will pile in. The buyer may also pile back in, depends what his 'strategy' is. MTRF down to 10k may be the signal. But fundamentally this is a better bet than it was at 3p and at that price it was a nonsense with the sole possibility of asset sale. It'll turn and all hell will break loose again. That could be tomorrow.

[shares14] 19/5/2009 17:41

Navyan whats been happening?

[rockin robin] 19/5/2009 17:33

L & S,

If we buy more - eventually we will win....Check out ULT - ULTRASIS Ltd - Paul Antony Bell, a private investor has declared a 91 million stake in the Company recently, the share price has grown 'beautifully' since his buying.

We just need to buy more than the MM have.

[lift and shift] 19/5/2009 17:21

Guys,

I`m a starting to get little concerned that by posting nearly every trade that is brought or every trade we are looking to buy, we are playing right into the hands of the mm`s for extreme manipulation of the share price They don`t have to try and read what we`re doing we`re telling them before we do it..

Is there anyone else thinking we should ease of with posting our trades. Its not just the mm`s but because of the bulk we are talking about if we start posting that we`re selling then this will also leave it open for shorters to take advantage either way, at this level I think we`re playing a risky game..?

thoughts appreciated

[landwatcher] 19/5/2009 17:20

So if share issue happens, how much damage will it be to current sp?

[navyan] 19/5/2009 17:04

my bet is also SB will probably take a stake here, but just current uncertainty cause people selling , of course combined with MM's game. there is no point of doind a RI at this level given the huge debt we already have.

[mlightfoot] 19/5/2009 17:02

landwatcher - agree on that from a funding perspective, but what if it relates to SB taking a stake!?

[mlightfoot] 19/5/2009 17:00

seabass - I personally I think the share issue has the most legs, trying to rationalise what SB may want to continue and re-invest, it makes most sense.

I suppose you have to hope that even in the event of a 50% dilution then with the revised share price we probably see something around the 30p level.

[matt19] 19/5/2009 16:59

Think what they call a technical bounce is due!!

[landwatcher] 19/5/2009 16:59

seabass, as previous people said, if the share issue real come, what problem will be solved by it. Base on current price, even double the share amount, the money they rise is still slightly part of the debt they owned by Sberbank. And that may cause the stock price collapsing to lower again. That is barely benefit at all. AIMHO...

[squintyflinty] 19/5/2009 16:53

Gooner, you must be gutted at this 5 day fall.I sincerely hope that tomorrow wll be the day when the trend reverses.At this point the risk/reward is mouthwatering!

[matt19] 19/5/2009 16:51

Thoughts on tomorrows action??

[g3a] 19/5/2009 16:50

Carlito, please update mine to 293K. TIA.

[grahamytrain] 19/5/2009 16:50

Jcg - I am gutted

Carlito Sway please add my 23 to your list mate.....and
then give it to whoever succeeded VS to wipe his nose on it. plonkers.

[seabass] 19/5/2009 16:49

IMO there are 3 reasons why share price has dropped, one is the seller knows/or is guessing large share issue coming, or profit taking because again of lack of clarity/uncertainty, or not so happy with the latest director from within the board rather than from somewhere different.

[navyan] 19/5/2009 16:49

I am climing up on the list as the share price drops, strange

[navyan] 19/5/2009 16:47

Carlito Sway please update mine to 157K, thanks mate.