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Posted at 15/2/2018 23:53 by last of the mohicans horneblower,Sorry not looked at ADVFN in a while, probably because SYT has been much slower at getting the growth it needs than should have been the case. Too many unpaid trials etc Looks like they've sorted out the Tata agreement (ie learned lessons from the old one that wasn't bringing in any $$$) I'm expecting to see a few things appear at Barcelona latter this month......... Hopefully it will now start to perform as a very good investment, given the installed smartphone base is growing at 2M+ handsets a month now. LOTM |
Posted at 29/11/2016 13:41 by last of the mohicans griff2711Some interesting thought's go back to the presentation and listen to the bit from 18:45 to 19:30 He talks about "cross carrier" be it wireless or internet interacting with the platform. Has to be the CSP. If you doubt it go back to what Rahul says in the Q&A this is one person's notes on it @chad3110 Q: Couldn’t a big telco create the same apps that you’ve developed? A: Every time somebody says dataflex and freeway are apps, I take ? - they are far more than just apps – they are the full blown end to end solution powered by the same underlying connected services platform. What we have done as a company, spent of the last few years developing a robust carrier grade scalable network, complete with tools for managing our operations and usage of sites, in addition to the apps, freeway & dataflex experience to the user. When you see freeway there is a whole engine running behind it and very wide and compelling, ranging from the offers, content providers and consumers. As far as the mobile carriers are concerned, they have never really been known to develop customer facing software solutions. I’ve seen them do 3 things well – customer support mostly, ? corporates & billing. In some operations they have tried to develop in house sponsored data solutions, which is great, Verizon & AT&T have tried to do that as well, but their solution was very network centric and requires significant modifications to existing applications of back end servers to accommodate what we even use as a solution and I wouldn’t expect any more from these carriers, so as a desire to end this friction, most of these operators developments have clearly not succeeded. On the other hand, SYT have developed a consumer friendly content first platform, which requires no change to existing applications and eliminates all friction for adoption, which means zero changes for application developers if they want to participate in sponsored data. I would say the other key value we have that cannot be approached by a mobile carrier, is that we are cross carrier. There is actual aversion by the app developers to adapt their products to a single carrier and their product is not scalable. They would have 1 API, and second API and a third API, it’s very hard to explain to their user base. Instead what we offer is you integrate freeway once, and you get access to the growing carriers that freeway supports without requiring any updates to their app in the future. It's future ready. That’s a huge differentiation. As far as dataflex and mobile split billing goes, carriers have been dabbling but really cannot compete in this space because a successful BYOD solution in a workspace, is literally bring your own carrier. Therefore we need to support all the carriers, and not just a single carrier; so again, we really don’t see carriers getting into the BYOD space. (Gary – we see a carrier as a partner than competitor in both our products) If you believe both of the above are true then AT&T are using the white label version of the product, but Syntonic are probably not permitted to say so currently. -------------------- Tata - we are still not sure why they've not launched the product yet, there paying for it & at the same time giving Syntonic a march on themselves which to me is crazy, but that might be down to internal issues high up in Tata Download reviews finally picking up again !!! :) Go India go $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ LOTM |
Posted at 14/11/2016 06:43 by griff2711 Just to add SYT on their quarter results only had c.$400k in cash costs this quarter so something's changed! |
Posted at 01/11/2016 22:04 by horneblower LOTM, Many thanks for those posts. All very helpful in trying to understand the USP of SYT.I have orders in to buy more. |
Posted at 01/11/2016 20:02 by last of the mohicans Horneblower2 very recent posts from HC from other posters following on from me posting my AT&T theory. Maybe they will help explain things for you in a completely different way? LOTM From Syzygy glad to have you with us and especially asking about the CSP, as underneath it all - pun intended - that is what Syntonic is all about and what drives Freeway and Dataflex, as well as other services they have, like the On-Ramp Education Service. We should also include that the CSP will also be the operating system for any white label version of Freeway (or Dataflex if that was to occur). The Connected Service Platform is at the heart of Syntonic's technology. Even though we don't have specs for it - it is a patented program - we have basic descriptions of what it achieves. I'll give my briefest run-down and throw in a few Syt quotes so as to stick to script. Syntonic’s platform is in-network, cloud managed, OS, and device independent. The in-network is a borrowed term from the US health care industry referring to treatments that you have that are covered by your health insurance. With Syntonic then, it relates to users of the CSP keeping their costs down by staying within CSP's ecosystem, as opposed to other operating systems where only partial services are provided for your application and you would require an external service to complete your engagement. In short, with the CSP, content providers and other users just need to bring their content and Syt looks after the rest. The CSP is cloud based, which means that it is always within reach - can be connected to from anywhere - which is important for the analytics component. Any type of connected mobile device can use the CSP, so it is not device dependent. So what does it do? Firstly, it brings content to users through either Freeway, Dataflex, On-Ramp, a white label of these like Tata's soon to be released, or through a custom service like DirectTV and Verizon's OTT (and hopefully many more). What is special about this? I'll use my own made-up examples as they demonstrate better rather than GG's cryptic, engineer-minded marketing spin. Lets start with the big one: DirectTV. (this of course is all 'hearsay' presently, but ignore it at your trading peril!) You have a paid subscription to A&T's DirectTV for $50/month, enabling viewing of 100 channels on any device (this has never been done before). Once logged on, you are exposed to lots of content, not all you are happy to be seeing at the expense of your data. But, this is where it changes from the usual data plan. Not all the content will consume your data. Commercials for example will be free (just like on TV). But of course, with your normal TV the content providers, like a washing powder add, pays the TV station to be aired. On DirectTV, the same thing will occur, but as it is your data that is enabling you to be online (and consumed) you don't want this add consuming your data, or anything else that AT&T wish to throw at you, so the add makers for example - the content providers - pay AT&T to be aired and no data is consumed by you . DirectTV, using the CSP enables all content to be managed as far as the data is concerned, which will be an enormous part of Direct TV considering the huge amounts of data that will be provided. This is why GG constantly refers to content and not data plans. Capped data plans will become a thing of the past as the mega-data requirements of the future (read this month) will make them eventually obsolete, but it still will working in the background bringing you content, and the CSP will be managing it; all of it! Freeway: The app freeway hosts other apps that content providers place on it, after they have contracted Syntonics SDK, which is also powered by the CSP. If you have ever built an app, you will know how to use an SDK, which will enable you to put it on whatever OS you prefer. Content publishers, application developers, mobile operators, device manufacturers, and retailers require the CSP's SDK to publish on a Syntonic product or one of the specialized platforms that they are creating with major telcos such as AT and Verizon. What is very important here is that any customers can easily utilize the SDK WITHOUT having to 're-tool' their products. This enables a very quick adaption and ready to market process, and is one of the CSP's great advantages. Another is the extensive analytics process that the CSP enables for publishers and other users such as employers on Dataflex, or school managers using On-Ramp. The analytics help you understand individual application usage patterns, that is, a content provider can learn patterns and trends in user engagement, as well as receive full raw data process quantities, locations, periods etc. Dataflex: much of the same can be said about Dataflex backend, and the visible end is best understood by reading up from the Prospectus. Regarding your comment, Syt is an enabler of services and these services are not limited to sponsored data. They enable service provision accoss networks by allowing a seamless integration between networks. It is true that Syntonic is about more than sponsored data when we consider the CSP, but without SD, one wonders whether the CSP would be necessary. The CSP can be utilized by any carrier, app, or for any content, but I think your reference to across networks and seemless integration between them is pointing to something else if I understand you. However, anyone can integrate with the CSP, so in that sense it is across networks, either 3G/4G/Wi-Fi Hope this helps. Syz. -------------------- From Acca Syz We don't always agree 100% (which is goodness for mine) but with this post you have nailed the essence, the value, the uniqueness, even the "unicorn-ness" of SYT and its offerings. Where the company material reads well for anyone with a technical bent, you have nailed a lay investor's equivalent of a Hitchhikers Guide to the (SYT) Galaxy. Douglas Adams would be proud of you! Seriously, you have gotten to the nitty gritty of what is making SYT the great investment it will become. I don't want to detract from your theme, but think I can add a little useful emphasis. Which is: SYT's competitors have delivered their various (poor mans') equivalents of the Freeway App. NONE of them has gone to the very substantial extra investment and intellectual (patented) effort to create a CSP equivalent. We own that platform and it is gold standard. Tata recognised the value of CSP straight out of the gates and have been methodically building their own CSP-based infrastructure to service their breadth of-downstream telco partners/customers. And because Tata recognises the value CSP brings them, the negotiated free ride SYT has earned can be expected to generate returns we really can't begin to comprehend today. Our company is being effectively free-carried by the global leader in network inter-connectivity. Which other of your microcap investments can claim that kind of sponsorship?? On the other hand, it appears AT&T and Verizon have been slower off the mark to understand the value CSP adds. But now it seems, they really do get it ..and want it/need it yesterday. So our magnificent-but-litt To conclude, it's all about the PLATFORM. And the platform for sponsored data+++, along with all the competitive, first-mover advantages it possesses, is OURS. That's enough for now, except to acknowledge LOTM's efforts which have put the meat on the bones of the recent US re-alignment. One last call-to-arms: if you agree Syz' post adds real value to the understanding of the investment opportunity that is SYT, please go back here: Date: 02/11/16 Time: 01:30:25 Post #:20296793 ...and award a thumbie, so that the broader HC community will get it the way we do! That's called enlightened self-interest. |
Posted at 03/10/2016 17:06 by last of the mohicans Absolutely perfectly timed bear raid.They timed it perfectly (hats off to them) the buy bot missing, first day in 3 weeks with little volume, exactly what they've been waiting for. Not to mention most of Australia on holiday & lunchtime for the rest of them ! However it again shows the fundamental flaw SYT currently has not, enough investor interest (ie not on enough investors radar's) if it was and people had genuine buy orders in the market, the bear raid would never have worked, they would have lost there shares & not triggered all those stop-losses etc. It will happen again, without doubt, because we have no real buy depth, because we have all of 2,000 - 2,500 shareholder accounts and we don't have hundreds of new investors trying to get on board. Investors still don't know about Syntonic yet. No Institutions on board, no sign of significant USA based buying either. LOTM |
Posted at 30/9/2016 14:42 by gary1966 LOTM, The bigger thing for me is not just attracting this talent but getting them to agree to their remuneration being solely in stock. They clearly have confidence in where the stock price is going which means they are confident that the tech can fill a gap in the market and be commercial.I posted about SYT on the Michael Walters subscription site yesterday as I know he likes these kind of companies. Got a good post tick from him and so who knows he may look into it and in our wildest dreams may do a piece. Have followed up on their today with todays announcement and made the point about such a fledgling company attracting big hitters in the telecommunications world as well as getting deals done with the companies that they have to date. Every little helps Have a good weekend all. |
Posted at 30/9/2016 10:07 by horneblower It's rather sad that hardly anyone on the other threads like PANR seem to be 'getting' this. Probably most UK pi's think that stocks listed on ASX are hard to trade, especially as the action happens while we're asleep.I have had no difficulty trading SYT on TD Direct although you have to fill out a compliance form online before they accept the initial order from you. |
Posted at 26/9/2016 10:29 by smokeyjo3 Hi GuysI have a pretty similar story to Gary - have followed Lotm on PANR and have respect for your views. I have looked at this SYT and bought a decent holding over the past week or so. I will watch with interest!!!! GLA |
Posted at 10/8/2016 10:41 by last of the mohicans Notes curtesy of Chad3110's wife on Hotcopper from the Q&ASyntonic Q&A – 10 Aug 2016 (the wife’s notes) $7M Cap Raise reduction Reduced due to: • Anticipated revenue from Tata which has been amplified by the new (recently announced) 50% arrangement • Ready to move forward in SEA where there is a “hunger for sponsored data” – “sold out immediately” (achievement of early successes) • Saw what was coming through a rich pipeline The company has revenue to grow: • Accruing revenue to grow over coming quarters • Belief that the Milestones are achievable • Short/medium term – no extra investment is being sought despite investors coming forward to offer extra investment. • Confidence in the revenue being received and the pipeline No Revenue Reported to Shareholders • Syntonic cash flow numbers will be included in next 4C in accordance with ASX requirements. (NB date company became SYT was after close of last quarter) No Revenue Projections being promulgated currently • Opportunities are huge and the ranges of potential outcomes are large (impression only…..direct • Half year and full year all will provide detailed information on revenue stream Tata – Deal announced on 1/8/2016 (50% share) • Original deal - Annual Subscription to be paid by Tata • New deal – Tata wanted to lock in long term with Syntonic ( • Tata bears all operating costs – for SYT the revenue share is high with costs very low • Freeway by Syntonic – can also be supported separately on TATA network – when/if this is the case, Syntonic don’t have to share revenue with TATA Download numbers on Google Play Store • Downloads do not take into account the white label downloads Pokemon Go • Original campaign 10000 for 1GB was to finish on 15 Aug • Almost sold out completely (in Gary’s words….&rdquo • Currently in business discussions to extend the offer in US/Malaysia/Indonesi • High bandwidth, augmented reality games – this is just the start • The promotion has been very successful from a strategic perspective in getting the Syntonic name out Carriers looking to differentiate themselves from other telcos • A lot of interest in video from carriers (Freeway) Scalability & Reliability of Freeway • Freeway platform was thoroughly tested by Tata prior to the Tata deal being endorsed • Syntonic has a Global Development & Customer Relationship team ready to support/promote the product and address any concerns (which were indicated as usual in the initial roll out stages) • Platform stable and management seemed confident in its deployment Addressable Audience • Users who have a smartphone and the ability to access Freeway on their carrier’s network Will Syntonic go direct to market or use resellers? There are 2 versions: • Enterprise version • more $, better security, greater analytics available for companies • promoted through Enterprise mobility management vendors who just bundle in Syntonic with other programmes (??? Samsung Knox ???) • For small/medium organisations there is a SAAS system/portal that they can go through directly Dataflex • 10 pilots – no revenue yet – but a huge learning and promotion opportunity from these pilots • Big commercial push starting end of this year • In Dataflex, the employer is the sponsor of the data, hence Freeway and Dataflex are similar in the sense that: • In Freeway companies/organisati • In Dataflex an employer sponsors data for a person’s work time (e.g. Apps/VOIP/Skype etc) Freeway • Only app of its kind (front/back end) • Competition seemed to pale into insignificance from the list of reasons (e.g. some required code to be altered, others didn’t have analytics etc. etc. etc.) Worth a listen for technical people but seemed like both Gary and Rahul were very confident in their product What will the next 3 months bring? • A lot more countries opening up - Philippines, Thailand + Tata in SEA • Anticipate more augmented reality in USA Aussie Office? • Perth interim office – currently evaluating different offers from various states to establish a more permanent office Could Syntonic consolidate with another business? • Yes Market Cap Justification (3c @ $60 Mill) • As large shareholders, Gary and Rahul want a strong share price. • When asked about the share price on the decline….stat • Gary went on to discuss his time at Microsoft when the chairman (?) was asked “How to boost the share price?” his answer was simply “Do the right thing for the business and the market will respond.” |
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