Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Simigon Ltd. LSE:SIM London Ordinary Share IL0010991185 ORD ILS0.01 (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 7.50p 7.00p 8.00p 7.50p 7.50p 7.50p 0 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 3.9 -0.6 -1.6 - 4

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
17/4/2017
13:40
Daz - Thanks again for that, even more puzzling that such a presentation was not open to the general public, a good opportunity that would have been lost but for you giving us the benefit of your visit. If one accepts the CEO & CFO are non uk based, is not the Chairman? In that case as a former Director of both LTG plc and Jarvis he would now how important Shareholder relations are and at least he could bang the drum somewhat!!
dgwinterbottom
17/4/2017
11:31
DGW - Yes, a presentation in London but not open to the general public, I only got invited because I knew someone. It's not good enough, I did say to them they need to promote themselves better to private investors. Although they are not often in London, with a bit of organisation, they ought to be able to manage 1 or 2 a year, if they give it priority and I think SIM is one of those companies whose rating could benefit. Yump. Re the order book not being mentioned in the finals, I agree totally, I can't think why they didn't say anything as it's very relevant to valuing the company. They have the far East contract announced on May 3 2016, which runs for 5.5 years, so say 4.5 years left and a 5 year contract with the US Air Force announced on May 5 2015, so 3 years left to run. These are the longest I could find, so to be conservative, if the average contract is 4 years, then the annual run rate comes to around $6m and that would be consistent with Saas revenues approaching 80% of current revenues, a figure mentioned in the presentation. BB - fair point. It would be nice to think that the Jun 2013 contract is the only problematic one, the contract with the US Air Force is a continuation and so I think less risk but there isn't enough information to evaluate the others. The flip side of the Jun 2013 contract, is now that they are near the end, they are in a good position to win work in the subsequent phases, as they have said a few times and hopefully they will have a clearer idea of what they're taking on, so the mess isn't repeated.
daz
17/4/2017
09:57
It's not just so simple as to state the size of the order book give what's happened with the previous contracts and the unknown costs associated. My last post also, hope it works out for all holders...
battlebus2
17/4/2017
08:58
Well this is my last comment and its nothing to do with SIM being small, or on AIM or foreign. "The order book stands at $23m, spread over a number of years and this provides substantial visibility of revenues both for this year and guarantees they will be profitable this year." So my question is this: Why has it taken someone to report from a presentation, to find out the order book size ? Either I am not reading carefully enough, but there is no mention of order book at all in the finals. Aren't the RNS's supposed to give key information to investors ? Please nobody say that you should go to AGM's and presentations to do 'proper' research. I guess you could probably have a go at adding it all up from the contract announcements. Also, really the order book size doensn't say much without the other bit of information, which is how many years is that for ? Without that, what can be concluded ? Its just a question of being specific and in my book there have been several red (or perhaps pink) flags in that area. Good luck anyway. That is my last contribution. Honestly.
yump
17/4/2017
08:27
Indeed Daz, my thanks also for taking the time and trouble to give us the benefit of what was said especially as under normal circumstances it is so difficult to get any details of progress from within the Company, was this a presentation in the UK?
dgwinterbottom
17/4/2017
08:24
Daz, many thanks for your excellent post 473 re the company presentation and for the subsequent additional posts. I hadn't appreciated the extent of the powerful transition to the SaaS model which has already taken place, and which I'm glad to see.
rivaldo
16/4/2017
16:49
Looking at my Sharescope data page in terms of past and future, one sees: 2015 2016 2017(e) Turnover £m 4.539 4.458 6.175 Pre Tax Pft £M 1.07 0.22 1.28 Norm eps (p) 2.62 0.74 2.41 Certainly a marked improvement in Turnover which if achieved will be the highest on record with similar marked improvements on Pre tax profit and eps. Its almost as if the "significant contract" for the S.American country being supplied since 2015 has proved to be somewhat of a millstone. No wonder they will be glad to see it completed.
dgwinterbottom
15/4/2017
14:13
Daz - I'm with you wrt investment case. Sure there are risks, as with all micro-stocks, but at 20p these are more than reflected in the ultra-low valuation.
brummy_git
15/4/2017
07:21
I agree with your observations Yump - I bailed out a few months ago as the lack of transparency/clarity around their business model and "jam tomorrow" statements which I found unsettling. I had invested earlier on the basis of the financials and the prospects. There is a definite markdown on companies based abroad and for good reason it may appear. Very pleased with my decision as my SIM money went into IDEA and LTG and both have more than made up for the loss I took in SIM. Good luck to all holders.
multibagger
14/4/2017
23:43
I've sold out a while ago, but the points I'm talking about are: The big lump of cash doing nothing The vague statements - not just one. (But particularly the one about that big contract that was modified, apparently with increased deliverables, presumably free of charge - in which case why and if not why wasn't the increase told to investors ?) The (usual) positively spun stuff about moving to SAAS, improving revenue visibility, but with short term hit, as if the lumpy contracts were actually producing increasing revenue already, which they weren't. You can find them all if you look and if you think its important. I gave them the benefit of the doubt for quite a long time and then thought enough is enough so sold all, on the basis that I can find homes for the investment where I'm pretty sure the BOD are telling me most of what I want to know. fwiw, xenophobic or not, that now excludes all Israeli, US, Australian, Indonesian, Chinese and a few others who float on AIM instead of their own markets for some reason and its a reason that's pretty easy to guess. AIM is risky enough with UK companies where I can use extensive resources to find out what might really be going on and there's enough of them with enough potential reward, not to risk investing in those where I have zero chance of digging out useful information. I think I would have more confidence here if they had a continuously and significant increasing revenue in their original core business, rather than now branching into other virtual training areas. Hope you do well anyway. They certainly could be transformed by decent sized contracts.
yump
14/4/2017
22:36
BB2, My view is they announced the buyback program to soften the blow of profit warning, which was successful as the share price rose on the day of the warning (from memory). They then reduced the dividend to compensate for the money used in the buyback.
cockerhoop
14/4/2017
22:26
Over the last few years aircraft manufacturers have become increasingly savvy about the value of data and are charging enormous sums to the manufacturers of full flight simulators - sometimes even taking a cut of of the hourly training rate. This has also lead to exclusivity deals which excludes minnow operators like SIM from being involved in the civil side of aviation. This I imagine is why they're considering going down the lower tech route of maintenance training and cranes etc, etc where there are no of minimal data costs. Another question i'd ask was regarding the UKMOD program which they provide some support via Lockheed but Lockheed recently placed an order with PEN for CBT type services which I imagine SIM could have bid for. Did they bid? If so why did they fail as already incumbent with Lockheed? Regards the dividend, if you're temporarily suffering a profitability blip and future prospects are good and you've $8m in the bank I think you'd maintain the dividend as a sign of confidence. They could finance 24 years of dividend payments with the cash pile! My personal view is UK shareholders will never see this cash in any meaningful way so should exclude it from any valuation calculation.
cockerhoop
14/4/2017
22:19
Why not keep the dividend and not buy back shares? Doesn't make sense to me.
battlebus2
14/4/2017
20:35
Prompted by Brummy I looked at my SIPP records, and it looks as if the 25% Israel tax has been withheld. My SIPP is with Charles Stanley, and I rather expect them to get things right. If they send me anything telling me what tax was withheld in Israel, it didn't catch my attention. Does anyone get the gross amount? Or the gross amount less 15%?
gnnmartin
14/4/2017
19:05
Did anyone ask why they'd reduced their dividend by 75% when they had $8m of cash on the balance sheet?
cockerhoop
14/4/2017
19:02
Daz, Do you have an understanding of their product? Simibox appears to be a tool that allows customers to create their own training courses? I'm aware of their tie in with Lockheed Martin who presumably allow SIM to use their data to model courseware but i've not seen any other aircraft type specific CBT that they've produced.
cockerhoop
14/4/2017
18:42
Worth giving your broker a call on that BG I tend to think many execution only brokers will take the easy option, which is to do nothing!
daz
14/4/2017
17:13
Yes Daz - I suspected that may be the case. Presumably though some UK brokers may be are to tell whether the end-beneficiary is British or not, and then at least apply the reduced 15% rate (Re UK tax treaty), rather than the higher generic 25% applicable to all other overseas shareholders?
brummy_git
14/4/2017
16:49
Unlikely I think BG as most people have their holdings in nominee accounts
daz
14/4/2017
16:44
Separately does anyone know whether its possible to reduce the with-holding tax rate on Simigon's dividends - say from general 25%, to either 15% (ie reflecting UK tax treaty) or even better 0%?
brummy_git
14/4/2017
16:42
Thx daz , that's very helpful
rhomboid
14/4/2017
16:37
Yump, as BG says, it would help if you were more specific. I've searched through some of your posts and found the following:- You quoted disbelievingly on "... the Company's great revenue and profit visibility for 2017 and beyond". This is referring to the Saas revenues and order book. You commented on the company statement on the Israeli contract. "Once the expected contract has been signed it is due to be delivered within 18 months and its expected revenue contribution has already been factored into management's expectations for the year ended 31 December 2016." I think it's quite clear that they added it to expected, rather than actual revenues and this explains the revenue shortfall compared with expectations. The company did say that they had now received the US signoff, which is a pre-condition for the contract, so I would hope it finally gets signed in the next 2 or 3 months. I would add that they are a hostage as to how fast governments move, which is a weakness but once they are signed, not only do they receive the value of the initial but are in an excellent position to be awarded follow on orders. You've made several comments on the "June 2013 contract" The company said this in the finals '... The Company now expects to complete all system delivery milestones and receive the requisite client confirmations within the first half of year 2017.' Yes it has taken a long time and yes they have probably had to provide extra features at their own cost but the end is in sight and they finally have a new reference site.
daz
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