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[wbecki] 13/12/2018 12:28

But, ironically, some EU leaders see the wide-ranging deal they have agreed with far-off Japan as a possible model for future commercial relations with the United Kingdom, once it formally quits the bloc!!!

Says all you need to know.

[wbecki] 13/12/2018 12:08

Concur with all you say Pineapple.
JoeStalin spot on as well.

Some people are just deluded.

We voted LEAVE for political reasons, not economic and it was always clear what "Take back control" of laws,borders,trade and money meant..

There was only one set of outcomes that guaranteed all of those and we were told repeatedly.

Outside Single Market.
And for Trade, Outside the Customs Union the only way.

So Brexit, or proper Brexit was always outside both of these.

Anyone who claims the contrary is a liar.

[joestalin] 13/12/2018 12:04

From the beginning of her time in office, she has taken every opportunity to derail and dismember anything resembling a sovereign people’s Brexit.

In spite of her “no deal is better than a bad deal" pledge, May ensured to relax preparations for a clean separation from the EU on WTO terms. We all saw it coming, the nine-month delay to triggering Article 50 was inauspicious, to say the least.

Thereafter, the strategic missteps and betrayals piled up at an alarming pace: The £20bn cash pledge that quickly doubled, the Irish backstop, Chequers – a monstrosity born out of the backstop – which was quickly rejected, paving the way for the dreadful deal she’s now trying to force upon us.

[steelwatch] 13/12/2018 11:55

Can't say I agree with all that, but, back on topic:


The 1st of 5 permits approved yesterday for Rowallan - Consent to locate the rig


Permits still to come:


Chemical
EIA Direction (undertake drilling ops)
VSP
Oil Discharge

[pineapple1] 13/12/2018 10:49

DH......i,ve no problem with those who felt remain suits them best. I know people who voted both ways.
The mistake i think the EU has made big time is their attitude during the Brexit negotiations.
Rather than act as if they are sorry to see us leave and they would be delighted if we wished to return ,they have instantly put us into a reverse choke hold and slammed us into the floor. Some will say that its done that way to discourage others leaving. But is the stick going to work better than the carrot. Not on a national level it won't. It will circle the wagons with those who voted to leave.
If they had acted sympathetically and with some show of remorse about the decision i suspect they would have had some that voted leave start to question their decision.
As it turned out they placed a jackboot on the throat.
imho

[fardels bear] 13/12/2018 10:41

If I had my way they'd each have a sting of convictions by now.

[robo175] 13/12/2018 10:28

Well saw this post that is spot on

Your forgetting that Mark Carney,Bank of England,President,Governor,has clearly indicated via his cronies from Government,if the UK leaves with No Deal,it will impact on 100 billion pound cost to UK Economy over the next fifteen Years?

What clever Mark,hasn't told UK,that if they Remain in Europe,how much it will effect the UK economy over fifteen Years of Mrs May Brexit Deal,why No cost of that proposal,Mark?

15 x 12 Billion per annum= 180 Billion.
1 x 39 Billion = 39 " "
Total = 219 Billion -100 Billion
Saving UK= 119 Billion to re-invest in UK!

If the UK leaves EU,the Netherlands/France Fishing fleets will face an Economic decline that will devastate their CAP Policies!

The Dutch take 90% of Fish from UK Waters to be processed in Netherlands,then repatriate the fish back to the UK?

Just think,this process has effected the UK for the past Forty Five years of depleting the UK Waters,whilst making profits for EU Counties at UK's expense,our MP's are really good at selling everything good off to Foreign Investors,Railways,Post Office,BT,Gas,Elec,Water etc!

It is just a pity the same UK MP's didn't have any convictions to help the UK residents over this same time period being sold out to the EU Subjugation,Major,Blair,Brown Cameron and Mrs May?

The Conservatives under Ted Heath,(Treaty of Rome Act 1957) EEC 1972 took UK into this Abyss and propose to keep the UK their?

[dunderheed] 13/12/2018 10:12

Actually I agree pineapple.
I really am a remainer (not really sure) based upon the fact I know it will potentially cost me more money to leave however, there's more to it than that and 1000% respect the result of the referendum! Best of (sqz) luck all.

[pineapple1] 13/12/2018 09:20

I just find it remarkable that the trade argument carries any weight with anybody. All goods (unless you want brand specific of course) available for sale within the EUs juristiction are available globally from other sources. These products are generally of at least equal quality and often more competitively priced than similar products available from the EU.
Since i have often been both a buyer and seller in my life i,ve more often than not found that the buyer of any product generally has the upper hand and can draw a price line in the sand over which one will not step. Its then down to the seller to either accept whats on offer or risk i take my business elsewhere and buy the alternative of equal quality that is happy to accept.
But oh no not in the Brexit negotiation . Here for some reason we are being told that the country that buys more than it sells and offers up an additional sum of £39B to boot, is in fact the weaker in the negotiation. Quite Bizzare is all i can say.
imho

[bountyhunter] 13/12/2018 09:03

South American and Australian wine are already cheaper and just as good as French wine so that is not going to be a problem before tarriffs are readjusted either!

[seangwhite] 13/12/2018 08:45

No doubt if BMC at Longbridge were to start making cars again the UK could buy such engineering marvels as the all new non EU 'Allegro'. It could have Bojo promoting it like his 'new routemaster'.The idea surely appeals to Bojo and his mates as a way of reviving the depressed UK manufacturing sector.

[fardels bear] 12/12/2018 22:25

And McDonald's will no doubt come up with the MacBMW...

[pineapple1] 12/12/2018 21:24

Thanks Bounty.....

I see TM won her vote....200-117
The MSM tabloids and remoaners will be out in force saying how we must all respect this vote. The irony of that statement will be lost on those who for the last 2.5yrs have done anything but respect democratic outcomes. Respect results only if they voted for it and it suits them
imho

[bountyhunter] 12/12/2018 21:19

Good points pineapple. More common sense - you will be sure to get a down tick for that from one of the remoaners!

[seangwhite] 12/12/2018 21:12

The irony of the zealots of the DUP holding the UK to ransom seems lost on most of the hard line Brexit bunch. Rees Smog the ultra catholic and Arlene really do make the Odd Couple!

[pineapple1] 12/12/2018 21:04

Losses. What losses.
If they wish to apply tariffs then so can we. Can't see what the problem is .
Seems like there are quite a few countries around the world who are not EU members and seem to do quite nicely on WTO. Why is WTO so good for others but supposedly so potentially destructive for the UK.??????

[froop] 12/12/2018 20:25

Sham the 39billion pales into insignificance against losses from no deal and that the fish we catch in our waters we largely export to the EU and do not consume at home..

[bountyhunter] 12/12/2018 19:37

That's way too much like common sense FB, we might even get our fishing back as well with that approach and we can't have that can we!?
I think you should be PM! 😉

[fardels bear] 12/12/2018 19:35

We could walk away, give them the two Agincourt fingers and save the 39 billion.

[bountyhunter] 12/12/2018 19:12

So what is your plan for Brexit? Revoke article 50 I presume?
TM's deal will clearly not be accepted as the DUP will not vote for it with the backstop and the EU have said that is non negotiable.