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Sagentia Grp LSE:SGA London Ordinary Share CH0012324965 CHF0.10
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 4.00p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 06:37:39
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
- - - - 8.64

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jonwig: Cyprus ... could be positive or negative, I wouldn't like to hazard which! However, SGA's role in life is to help other companies innovate and flourish. Looking at our share price history doesn't suggest much success on our own part. (Though the corner may have turned now.) As an example of the exalted company we keep:
elgordo: I was wondering if/when SGA's share price would be adjusted to reflect the loss in value of the holding in TTX since its float. The numbers are: TTX shares held: 3,177,486 Price fall: 17.5p (float price 40p, current mid-price 22.5p) Loss in value: £556,000 SGA shares in issue: 216m Loss in value per share: 0.26p So, of course, SGA doesn't move for a few days, then drops 0.5p. Sigh. Apart from the loss in value (which, of course, might be regained in due course if TTX recovers), the immediate and precipitous decline in TTX's price after floating will not endear SGA to others as and when it wants to sell or float off other assets. Hopefully they will be able to make a case that it was all down to market conditions at the time, but this story needs a recovery in TTX's price at some point to give it credibility. In the meantime, I'll try and get excited about today's news that Sagentia has been awarded certification to ISO 13485:2003 (see for all the gripping details).
jonwig: According to Digital Look, the MCap of TurfTrax at float will be £17.59m and the issue price 40p. That suggests 44m shares in issue, of which SGA will hold 3.2m (7.3%) valued at £1.3m, or 0.6p per SGA share. Each 1p rise in TT's share price will add 0.015p to SGA's NAV. (Will edit these figures when the final details are announced.)
jonwig: You could be right, Col. But far larger sells have failed to have the same effect (% - wise) in the past. I can't find the relevant listing requirement about significant share price falls. This is more than 10% but less than 20%.
picnic: Have just checked the SGA price on the LSE website and found a block trade of 3316153 @2.5p dated 3/10/07. Bradshaws holding ?? Anyway this looks like the stock overhang.If it ever gets cleared (500k traded today)you never know the share price might go up!
elgordo: In the face of the continued share price decline, at least the newsflow continues - Enigma Diagnostics Announces a European Commission Award of EUR3 Million to Fund the Development of a Point of Care Platform for the Rapid Diagnosis of Influenza Infections Sagentia helps BBC launch HDTV channel And Atranova appears to have a new website But oh for some substantive news from CMR Fuel Cells, Sphere, Intrasonics, or SGAI...
elgordo: For those who may not have noticed already (it's dated 4th July), the Summer 07 edition of The Gen is now available -{08F917E1-178D-4661-96E3-03AC5A309CA8} SGAI remains an enigma to me. The article on page 2 waxes lyrical - "It is no surprise therefore, that the service provided by Sagentia's joint venture, SGAI, is proving so attractive to US companies", but as noted before, it didn't even get a mention in the March Prelims {EDIT: Oops, not true - see 108 below}, and the latest news on its website ( remains the renaming of Generics in October last year. Either SGAI is in stealth mode or it's all flannel. By the way, tempting fate here, but maybe the share price has finally found its floor since the director purchases at the start of last month? {EDIT 18/07 - Doh!}
elgordo: I'll clutch that straw! I was mulling just yesterday that such a steep fall in share price for no apparent reason would ideally lead to directors' purchases, because without them the inference is that the much reduced price is appropriate. Whilst Frost's purchase means there is unlikely to be earth shatteringly good news on the horizon (if he was aware of such impending news, he would be constrained from buying), it does suggest that he sees the company as good value at its current level. Straw clutching ended.
jonwig: If the SGA share price is to reach 20p solely on the basis of Sphere Medical valuation we have: Currently: 11% of Sph valued at £1.5m, SGA share price = 6.9p, SGA MCap = £14.9m. So SGA priced at 20p, ie. MCap = £43m gives uplift = £28m, so whole of Sph valued at £270m. Is that what you're expecting, adejuk? Whilst I believe SGA to be quite undervalued at these levels, I'm not optimistic enough to embrace your valuation of Sph just yet! BTW, you talk of "Sphere float" and of "Bill & Trade sale". Which is it to be? In a buoyant market, an IPO would be preferable, but who knows, by September?
jonwig: Q: why hasn't the share price dropped this morning? A: because everybody (except me) knew and sold ahead of the figures... EDIT - when bad news fails to move the share price, you know it's the bottom ...
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