Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Rc Group LSE:RCG London Ordinary Share BMG739271085 ORD SHS HKD0.01
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 1.625p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 06:37:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 36.3 -73.7 -10.4 - 16.29

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orange1: There have been rumours of a reverse takeover of Vast Fortune plc but they are being denied by the company: 19 June 2012 RCG Holdings Limited Unusual Price and Volume Movements The Company's share price on the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong increased by 19.2% on 19 June 2012, with the accompanying volume being higher than average. Consequently, the Company has made the following announcement in Hong Kong: "This announcement is made at the request of The Stock Exchange of Hong Kong Limited (the "Stock Exchange"). The board of directors (the "Board") of RCG Holdings Limited (the "Company") has noted the recent unusual increase in the price and volume of the shares of the Company traded on the Stock Exchange and wishes to state that the Board is not aware of any reason for such movements. The Board confirms that there are no negotiations or agreements relating to intended acquisitions or realisations which are discloseable under rule 13.23 of the Rules Governing the Listing of Securities on the Stock Exchange ("Listing Rules"), neither is the Board aware of any matter discloseable under general obligation imposed by rule 13.09 of the Listing Rules, which is or may be of a price-sensitive nature. Made by the order of the Board, the directors of which individually and jointly accept responsibility for the accuracy of this announcement."
robertfaulkner: This is what B Arrow is talking about, it's probably legally required to make such statements unless they do know something. Probably the only market maker in this share trying to drum up some business Would you trust what they say, after previous statements RNS Number : 6919Q RCG Holdings Limited 24 October 2011 Press Release 24 October 2011 RCG Holdings Limited ("RCG" or the "Company") Share Price and Volume Movements The board of directors (the "Board") of RCG Holdings Limited has noted the recent unusual increase in the price and volume of the shares of the Company traded on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange and the increase in the price of the Company's shares traded on the AIM market of the London Stock Exchange and wishes to state that the Board is not aware of any reasons for such movements. The Board further confirms that it is not aware of any other matters which are required to be disclosed in accordance with the Hong Kong Listing Rules and the AIM Rules for Companies. - Ends -
hugepants: Still looking god-awful here. Also, not surprisingly, the Spartan Gold share price has collapsed;range=20101231,20110722;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=; The RCG stake is now worth £1M. RCG issued £4M worth of shares in January to Avalon acquire this stake. I assume Avalon would have sold their RCG shares immediately though. What price the next fund-raising?
biggest bill: Step 1. A placing is announced. Step 2. The share price falls because of the placing. Step 3. The share price keeps falling until it is below the placing price. Step 4. The placing price is reduced to be below the share price. Step 5. The reduced placing price further depresses the share price. Step 6. Return to step 3.
nab2807: morgank - that shows up as an uncrossing trade on iii, I have reproduced an old post from ADVFN reminding everyone of what that means: "At the start and end of the trading day, and occasionally in the middle of one, a process known as an 'auction' takes place on shares traded on SETS or SETSmm. The opening auction normally lasts from about 07:50 to 08:00; the closing auction from about 16:30 to about 16:35. A 5-minute auction can also be triggered in the middle of a trading day if prices are moving very rapidly. I believe the purpose of these interday auctions is to slow things down a bit and get the share price to settle down at a stable "market" level: the opening and closing auctions are similarly intended to get stable "market" opening and closing prices. There are also auctions mid-morning on the third Friday of each month, used to get stable prices for option expiry purposes. All of these auctions can get extended by a few minutes for various reasons. In normal trading, orders are continuously coming in and being matched against each other. Each order is either an "aggressive" one that has to be dealt with at once, or a "persistent" order that can sit around waiting to be matched. The "order book" consists of all the current unmatched persistent orders - each one of which is either a sell or a buy and has a limit price, with all of the sell limit prices being higher than all of the buy limit prices (otherwise, a sell could be matched to a buy). Aggressive orders may or may not have a limit price, and may or may not be allowed to be partly satisfied - depending on the exact combination, they are called "at best", "execute and eliminate" or "fill or kill" orders. An incoming aggressive order gets matched against the order book as far as possible within its constraints; any part of it that is not matched is then rejected. An incoming persistent order is matched against the order book similarly; any part of it that is not satisfied is added to the order book. During an auction, this matching is suspended. Aggressive orders are not allowed to be entered and persistent orders are allowed to build up regardless of whether they could be matched. (Incidentally, I believe this is why you sometimes see things indicating that the "bid" price is higher than the "ask" price at the time of the closing auction: the "bid" price is the highest price of any persistent buy order, the "ask" price the lowest price of any persistent sell order.) In addition, unpriced persistent orders are temporarily allowed on to the order book - they're known as "market orders". They're basically for people who are willing to trade at whatever the market price determined by the auction turns out to be. Then at the end of the auction, the whole set of accumulated persistent orders are matched against each other. The basic idea of this is to find the "uncrossing price" at which the largest number of shares can be traded - the idea being that if you go higher than this price, the number of trades goes down because there are too few people willing to buy, while if you go lower, it goes down because there are too few people willing to sell. The full rules are quite complex though - basically, they need to provide quite a lot of "tie break" rules for when two different prices will both result in the same number of shares being traded, and also to determine exactly whose orders get matched if there is a mismatch between the numbers of shares people are willing to buy and to sell at the uncrossing price. Anyway, once the uncrossing price has been determined and which buy and sell orders get matched, all of the matched orders put together are reported as a single trade, of type "UT" (for "Uncrossing Trade") and size equal to the total number of shares changing hands. In particular, note that a 300,000 share "UT" trade does not necessarily mean that any particular person or organisation has bought that many shares, nor that any particular person or organisation has sold that many shares. It may be a combination of lots of smaller trades by people and organisations."
rkhl: No problem Pentangle I was just musing on whether the board would take any more action regarding the share price as they did when it dropped below 40p by re shuffling the board. They have stated they are looking into corporate governance and investor relations and I am speculating that as the price has dropped to such a low point that they may make further announcements. "To the poster I quoted (probably unfair to single him out), a share price of 30p was exceedingly unlikely." I recall saying that I thought there would be support in the 30p range somewhere so yes at the time when the share price was 40p I thought it unlikely but when the share price was 90p in January would you have said I think it will be 25p in December. Yes I have been proven to be wrong as the share price has dropped below 30p but predicting the future is a hard game. Take a look at the 2011 RCG price prediction competition thread to see that every single person was overly optimistic, maybe that should tell us all something, maybe you should short the share if you believe you can predict the future and that this share price is destined to go lower.
nab2807: Morgank - I invested some more at 27.18p about an hour or so ago purely on the basis that this divergence is so large. Inevitably, there will be some convergence in the differential between the two and I am hoping that this will result in some form of upward adjustment in the UK share price rather than fall in the HK share price. Furthermore on Monday or Tuesday we are likely to see the corporate newsletter being released which invariably tends to contain some news of contract wins and could also include a statement surrounding the recent share price fall. Either way there definitely seems to be a forced seller in the UK as the HK share price seems to have decent support at the HK $3.75 (or 30p) price
clearsoup: Is there some confusion, here, between Mr. Tony Chan and Mr. Bobby Chan, or am I inadequately informed? No doubt you are all familiar with the April '07 Press release from RCG: "RC Group (Holdings) Limited Press Release 24 April 2007 RC Group (Holdings) Limited RC Group (Holdings) Limited and Veron International Limited The Board of RC Group (Holdings) Limited ("RCG" or "the Group") (AIM:RCG), a leading global provider of integrated biometrics and RFID security solutions, notes the recent movement in its share price and can provide the following information: On 11 April 2007 Veron International Limited ("Veron") announced a holding of approximately 64 million ordinary shares (27.6% of voting rights) in RCG. According to various recent public news released in the past few days, Veron is controlled by the late Ms Nina Wang who passed away on 3 April 2007. She was frequently quoted as the wealthiest woman in Asia by the media. RCG believes that Mr. Chan Chun Chuen ("Mr. Tony Chan") has filed legal papers staking his claim to the estate of the late Ms Nina Wang. The Chan family is one of the existing major shareholders in RCG, holding approximately 62 million ordinary shares (26.7% of voting rights) in RCG and Mr. Tony Chan's brother, Mr. Bobby Chan, is one of the founders of RCG. Dr. Raymond Chu, Chairman and CEO of RCG, has been an acquaintance of both Mr. Tony Chan and Mr. Bobby Chan for many years. The Chan family does not participate in the management of RCG, nor does it have any representation on the Board of RCG. The Board of RCG affirms that the Group's business is progressing as usual and is confident that the Group's performance is on the course to meet market expectations." I would be grateful for any links, or other references to material facts arising subsequently.
masurenguy: longsight - 24 Jun'10 - 41951: BSST is in a different league from RCG on this since BSST waits almost a year to get paid for their contracts. Ouch Sure is ! Blustar share price up 52% this year. Bluestar yield 3.25% this year Bluestar have a positive operational cash flow Bluestar have net cash equivalent to nearly 40% of annual sales. Bluestar have not diluted shareholders of raised funds since their IPO Bluestar have no issues with major shareholders Bluestar have blue chip bank customers and no doubful debtors ! RCG share price is down 42% this year. RCG have zero yield and pay no cash dividend. RCG have negative operational cashflow. RCG have net cash equivalent to circa 2% of annual sales. RCG have diluted and raised funds several times since their IPO RCG have a credibility problem with a major shareholder RCG have not got blue chip bank customers and are their debts collectable ? Nobody likes extended debtor days but in China that is a consequence of doing most of your business with major banks, as the company pointed out in their report. However they are flush with cash and have blue chip bank debtors so it is not a problem.
uncle bulgario: RCG is not unique. There are other chinese aim companies with low p/e's. Look at china shoto, its share price was in the 90's while it was making 98p eps . thats a p/e of less than one. It was also growing rapidly with large (bluechip in this case rather than government)contracts and so also had money tied up in working capital/ receivables and relatively low cashflow. Eventually though these companies get paid, cashflow improves and a more normal valuation is reached. China shoto share price went up over 400% earlier this year. The reason RCG share price has gone down is the same reason all share prices go down at some time or other , that is: a period where there are more sellers than buyers.Very simple! This effect is amplified because it is a relatively illiquid stock so that a few sales can have a significant effect. Also exaggerated because of the extremely volatile markets and investors being generally nervous, euro crisis, double dip recession. Then you get positive feedback,i.e. more people selling because the price has dropped and the fall can be significant. RCG is also associated with Tony Chan, and so it is easy to spread rumour and inuendo about it. Then a deeper and sinister meaning can be read into practically any piece of news. This has made it a favourite stock for shorters who further exagerate the price movements. I have read the accounts in detail, industry news and publicly available information over many years, and from that i have come to my own conclusion that RCG is an excellent investment for medium to long term holders. This is based on simple boring FACTS such as that it is a rapidly growing busness, in a rapidly growing and profitable field (RFID) in the most rapidly growing economies in the world. Its clients include governments, banks and large corporations. Over the short term it is very volatile, with large price swings, but the factors that exaggerate the downwards movements also exagggerate the upward swings. I am sure many shorters have made a lot of money on this, and they certainly deserve it. I would not have the courage to be short it, especially now. good luck to everyone.
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