Plutus Powergen Share Discussion Threads

[bishopawn] 26/2/2017 17:58

Thanks savvy for your last two inputs. Newcomers in particular will find the information really useful in making up their minds about the potential Plutus gives us of making a great deal of money.

Since the beginning of last November the shares have entered a new trading range of 2.5 pence to 3 pence. Over roughly a 4 month period, despite a quite concerted selling into the rise by some, the price seems to me to have consolidated, because the market has taken a view in the light of "proof of concept" and the "reaching of a transformational milestone" with the commissioning of the first site at Ernsettle Industrial Park in Plymouth, which I personally visited in the summer, though because of other businesses, in particular large V-Spring mattress Factory,and also the dense shrubbery on the boundary, it was not possible to fully view the installation of generators.

But as you say there is a further 6 sites that already have planning permission and then we have a further 5 sites in planning, each able to generate 20MW of electricity as and when required by the Grid.

There could be quite a number of "ducks" getting ready "in line" behind the scenes to produce a stream (perhaps torrent would be going too far) of exciting news. If they are currently "ducklings", we could expect a clutch of more than six. Here lies I think the potential for unexpected developments, as the status of Plutus becomes confirmed in the mind of other business investors and financial institutions wanting a safe and lucrative home for their cash.

The veil is still over all this stuff, I imagine, in order to retain commercial advantage. Sooner or later, it is all going to be revealed.

So, because we cannot predict the timing, I would say that it is "BETTER TO BE IN THAN OUT."

[marvin9] 26/2/2017 17:48

When did they release an RSN to announce the new CM contract?

I saw the RNS about the new web-site but not the CM contract?

[1savvyinvestor] 26/2/2017 09:05

This was the footnote on interim results rns; planning permission for the development of two 20MW renewable fuel powered energy generation sites in Stowmarket, Suffolk. This brings the total number of 20MW sites which have planning permission for the development of renewable fuel powered energy generation projects to seven (equal to 140MW) and we have a further five sites (100MW) in planning. The Company also successfully brought its first power generation project in Plymouth into operation after the period end and in time for this year's TRIAD season. The site is now operating at full output and Attune Energy Limited is successfully generating revenues as expected. This is a transformational milestone for the Company, acting as proof-of-concept in respect of Plutus' strategy to become a predominant player in the flexible energy generation market, and providing Attune Energy Limited with immediate exposure to its revenue streams, including: · Short Term Operating Reserve (STOR)· Firm Frequency Response (FFR)· TRIAD· Merchant power sales (PPAs) Attune Energy Limited, in which we have a 45% interest and from which we receive a management fee of £150,000 per annum, operates the Plymouth site, which also holds a Capacity Mechanism Contract for 15 years starting in 2019 and is pre-qualified for next year's 2017 Capacity Mechanism Contract.

[1savvyinvestor] 26/2/2017 08:57

For true long term holders the daily share price is an irrelevance. What we have here is a company that is clearly going to be extremely profitable. What the share price is at the end of this coming week , end of May or end of year is frankly irrelevant if your time horizons are long enough. I have no specific target for an exit share price as I simply don't know how this will move. Takeovers happen in this sector and Plutus must be a very strong candidate both medium and long term. At what price? I honestly have no idea but it will be substantially higher than the current level. And without a takeover the company itself will become highly cash generative by 2018 with a market cap to match. Off to see the Northern Lights tonight !!

[marvin9] 25/2/2017 21:29

Seems Savvy has now reverted to being Bishop and savvy has done one lol,

[montynj] 25/2/2017 19:23

Well said Bishop

[bishopawn] 25/2/2017 13:20

Having all our ducks in line on this side of the Pond (quack!) is not the same as being a "Duck Egg".
Let us not refer here at all to a big duck egg in another nest/discussion board. If it is starved of attention and heat, it will just stay a duck egg and not transmute into a Donald Duck of huge proportions.
Let this Plutus discussion board be the only one we visit and read and contribute to. There is more than one way to crack an egg!
Come to think of it, was there not a ventriloquist's duck dummy called "Marvin" who starred a lot at Blackpool. Came to fame on "Opportunity Knocks" One difficulty ventriloquists face is that all the sounds that they make must be made with lips slightly separated.. A widely parodied example of this difficulty is the "gottle o' gear", from the reputed inability of less skilled practitioners to pronounce "bottle of beer".
"Goggling" the duck egg up elsewhere is the best policy, I would suggest.

[montynj] 25/2/2017 11:08

Thank you too

[luckyphilip] 25/2/2017 11:05

Excellent posts. Thank you . Most of this information is in the vox podcast and it is up to us as investors to invest based on what we interpret as likely events to come . Im not sure we will have firm news to excite right away so have my shares tucked away .

[1savvyinvestor] 25/2/2017 09:14

Great to have you back Bishop. Hope your trip was good. Agree that the possibility of a cash cow in 2018 opens up various potential directions if travel. The Rockpool investments are expected to be worth around £5 million each to Plutus if bought by a predator . There are 9 of them. It is known that Rockpool will look to realise their share in investments once the EIS period is over which will be a mixture of 2018 and 19. So Plutus can either be part of that sale or acquire 100% of the share capital so bringing in rolling profits to the bottom line. As you also suggest the use of cash could be used aggressively.

[stardrops2] 24/2/2017 23:25

Bish welcome back to the sane side of the pond or not

[stardrops2] 24/2/2017 23:03

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
The figures are very misleading ok please explain to those idiots which includes myself who bought in at 0.6 and 0.9 whilst you bought in at 3p+ cant wait

[marvin9] 24/2/2017 21:48

Not a chance, this will be 6p by end of year, Told ya, buy some but not just yet

[bishopawn] 24/2/2017 21:33

Another way of putting it would probably be: "everything is looking rosy and this week two more little ducks have been moved into line." The other little ducks or should we say much bigger ducks are nearly in line. When they are, no doubt we will be hearing about it.

By the way my last message was from Florida, so this is the first one from this end of the Pond. As I said, reading and re-reading the Strategy section of the new Company Website is advisory, and it would not take much imagination or intelligence to work out what those bigger ducks are all about.

It is my personal opinion that the previous Broker did not much to promote the share price, whereas I am confident that Cantor Fitzgerald will, given time. Their price target of 3.8 pence awhile ago was their opening gambit. Once all the Plutus Ducks have been revealed to be "in line", C.F will be able to say much more about valuation. But then it will be too late to get shares at this level.

We may speculate about Plutus being a takeover target in the next two years with some plausible arguments. But what about Plutus itself being aggressive and ambitious, in wishing to grow by acquisition as well as organically. As income streams for Plutus increase this year and next, this could be a possibility. One possible source of cash to go buying could be found in selling a couple of sites in 2018 for £10 million.
Whichever way you look at it, 2017 is definitely a big turning point.
Quack, quack, quack!!!.........!

[montynj] 24/2/2017 19:41

Bishopawn, nice to see that u r back. Hope your holiday was good. Management remain very upbeat from what I can tell after communicating with them the other day."Suffice to say mgmt have never been happier or more bullish about future prospects" was one of their comments to me

[marvin9] 24/2/2017 18:41

7 Day Average Directional Indicator
Sell

10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel
Sell

20 Day Moving Average vs Price
Sell

20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator
Sell

20 Day Bollinger Bands
Hold

20 - Day Average Volume: 2,454,361
Average: 80% Sell

What more can I say but don't shoot the messenger!

The figures above look appalling and would deter any newby investors buying into PPG shares;

However all is not lost, the figures are very mis-leading and are the result of this mega PM Dumper shown in the depressing figures above; something the select few on the Darkside are supporting and possibly involved in.

Red Thumbs down if you think the Darkside thread is a pump and dump scam?

[marvin9] 24/2/2017 17:14

As said; the mega sell orders go in around 2.65, crashing the price back down.

2.5 to buy does seem the floor for the time being.

Pending further news I'm gonna hold and wait.

As for the whingers from the Darkside, apologies for spoiling your ramp a dump scam but tuff.

If you don't want to read my comments then why do you keep coming here, then going back to the darkside and make stupid moaning comments lol.

Your nuts

Will yet again verify; I have no issues with PPG or its potential, my gripe is with this mega dumper who the darkside seem to defend and support ?????? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Red Thumbs down if you think the Darkside thread is a pump and dump scam?

[danyo11] 24/2/2017 15:39

Only 14 posts so far on PPG today Marv - not bad for someone who claims to have no agenda. You remind me of 'fastlane' on another board about a year ago but on steroids. He eventually got his price and is now quite an advocate of PPG!

[marvin9] 24/2/2017 14:21

Oops oh yea lol???????/

Very savvy of you